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On iTunes Reviews
by Noah Lugeons
(Warning: Excessive naval-gazing ahead)
Up to this point, reviewers on iTunes have been quite kind to us. I’d love to fan the flames of my own arrogance with this fact, but in truth it tends to be the case that the vast majority of the reviews for a new podcast are overwhelmingly positive. This probably has something to do with the fact that most of the people who would take the time to search out a new podcast would be (a) predisposed to like podcasts in the genre and (b) willing to overlook some of the flaws that newer podcast producers are working through.
I have to admit, I check iTunes daily and at least once a week I go international and check our reviews in the rest of the English speaking world as well. I suppose every podcaster is compelled by a need for approval on some level so this is probably largely the norm… or at least, I hope it is.
iTunes gives reviewers the option of leaving a rating (1-5 stars) and writing a review. You can rate without taking the time to add a written review and about 33% of the people that have rated us have chosen that option. Almost all of our negative ratings have come sans-review. There was one one-star review that dismissed Heath and I as “mean”; which I’ll admit to. A three-star review asked that I get rid of the crappy music and another three-star review faulted us for not being less like us.
But yesterday we got what I consider to be our first honest negative review. On a five point scale you can’t exactly call a three star review negative and I can’t take the “you guys are mean!” review too seriously, but the one I read yesterday was a two-star review that didn’t seem ideologically motivated:
It seems like he’s trying too hard to rile religious folks up. There’s too many strong man arguments and no variety of opinion… not exactly inspiring intellectual conversation or provoking real convincing thoughts. It’s really all for entertainment value and I can easily say the fans are just finding more broken records to reinforce their beliefs. I mean, the quality of the audio and everything was really good. Content on the other hand..? It’s a lot of fool’s humor and pathetic stories of other fools to mock. Suit yourself if you like.
Obviously there are a few things there to unpack. He’s free to say whatever he wants, obviously, but I think it’s a bit of a low blow to go after the fans of the show (he’s talking about you!). The notion that I’m “trying too hard to rile religious people up” is kind of stupid, as it would require religious people to be listening to our show (I’m guessing none do). I could also pick on him for saying “strong man arguments” but I’m too highbrow for that.
But my main issue with this review (and similar feedback I’ve gotten via email) is that the gist of the review is: “I want this to be a different show.”
I don’t mind that he doesn’t find our brand of humor funny. Obviously it’s not for everyone. I don’t mind that he doesn’t find the thoughts and ideas we express compelling… most of them aren’t meant to be. But the unspoken premise of this review is that an atheist show is supposed to be a certain way. It’s supposed to include diverse opinion, thought provoking discussions, weaker man arguments (okay, I was bullshitting about the highbrow bit). And I’d be happy to point him to a few shows that are more likely to suit him. But I’m not persuaded by the “this shouldn’t be this!” argument.
And yes, I’m probably pissier than the review warrants. It’s good that the people who don’t like the show take the time to rate it so that people won’t start getting the impression that it’s beloved by all. I’m glad that he took the time to actually tell me what he didn’t like and why. And I’m glad he was so complimentary about the sound quality because, in my opinion, that’s the worst thing about the show. But I’d feel better about it if he hadn’t felt the need to say it in such a “I’m better than people who listen to this show” way. There’s too damn much of that in the atheist movement. We’re often drowning one another out by criticizing the methods and ignoring the message.
Incidentally, if you’d care to hear me opine a bit more on that exact subject, don’t miss my appearance on Atheistically Speaking next Thursday, where David, Thomas and I discuss this exact point in depth.
And forgive me for all the caterwauling. I’m halfway through the Phish Food and I’m already feeling better.
Episode 51 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Noah Lugeons and Cecil & Tom
Note: Transcript contains portions that were edited from the final episode due to time constraints
Warning: This podcast contains all the dirty words Bill Nye wanted to say to Ken Ham on Tuesday night but couldn’t.
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Intro:
It’s Thursday,
It’s February 6th,
And it’s the first week of White Guilt Month. Black jokes are still okay, but Asian jokes can be a slippery slope.
I’m Noah Lugeons,
I’m Heath Enwright and from “New Jersey’s Pimp”, New York, New York…
…and “Florida’s Ho”, Podunk, Georgia, this is the Scathing Atheist.
In this week’s episode,
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We learn how to use bankruptcy to get free kid rapes,
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Cecil and Tom will drop by for a little Cognitive Dissonance,
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And we’ll end free speech, free sight, and free hearing … to make Helen Keller feel better.
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe:
Time to hang up our spurs guys and gals. Turns out the war’s over… Apparently we won. Congrats. But now we’re done being atheists activists and we can just shut the fuck up about it. The Christians get it; they’re stupid, prayer doesn’t work and we all just die. They’ve decided to continue being religious anyway, but they get it so we don’t have to talk about it anymore. They’re still going to try to teach their religion in schools and claim legal exemptions based on it and influence foreign policy with it and shove it down our throats and everything, but they get it; there is no god.
And if you haven’t figured out what I’m sarcastically agreeing with yet, let me quickly summarize every god damn op-ed published about atheism by a major news outlet in the last three months.
“Hi, I’m an atheist, and like all atheists, I’ve always expressed my atheism by chasing religious people around after church and challenging them to explain the logistics of Noah’s Ark. I spent my days searching out religious people to berate about their stupid beliefs, until one day when I saw a sad person and they had a bible. And I realized that religion is a-okay and who am I to take that away from other people? Amen… I mean whatever we atheists say instead of Amen.”
I’ll link to a few examples in the shownotes but I hardly need to. This is the de facto media narrative about atheism moving into 2014. Atheists have had their say but now that all that stuff is out there we can just shut the fuck up about it. Religious people need their religion and if you try to take that away from them, you’re being a heartless prick.
The most egregious example I’ve seen was, no surprise, on the Guardian. In one of their bi-daily articles about what a racist asshole Richard Dawkins is last December holier-than-thou photographer Chris Arnade went so far as to claim that, and I quote “atheism is an intellectual luxury for the wealthy”. So down that <<Gran Patron>> and hide the rhodium plated triceratops skulls folks, they’re on to us.
He backs this up by claiming it several more times. His only citation is his anecdotal observation that a lot of heroin addicts are religious. Hey Chris, you know what else gives comfort to heroin addicts? Smack. I mean, while we’re using “things that comfort junkies” as our metric for societal benefit and everything…
This whole narrative is based on what can only be a purposeful misunderstanding of what motivates the atheist movement. Sure, we mercilessly mock the incestual implications of the Adam and Eve story and the sadistic perversity of the biblical god but that’s not what motivates us. We got into this not because we believe religion is silly, but because we believe it is harmful. The fact that it’s silly just makes it easier to mock.
In order to play the “poor people need religion” gambit, you have to first concede that religion is a beneficial force which is, of course, the exact opposite of what we believe. The author makes no attempt to justify the unspoken assumption that religion plays some positive role in the lives of these addicts. He just points out that a lot of them pray and have bibles. A lot of them have track marks and HIV too, so I’m not sure what point he thought he was making, but clearly it’s some derivation of the “Smart, affluent people like us can be atheists, but these lesser people need their psychologically-crippling, laughably antiquated paradigm.”
But even if you set that all aside and grant Chris’ wildly indefensible assertion that religion provides a comfort to destitute people that a secular worldview couldn’t, his point would still be meaningless. Who’s to say that geocentrism wouldn’t provide the same comfort? After all, thinking that the sun revolves around you would make you feel way more important, wouldn’t it? And wouldn’t we all be a little bit happier every day if we believed that Kermit the Frog was a real dude that we might someday happen upon at the deli? Wouldn’t we all feel better? Wouldn’t it give our lives more meaning?
So I’ll make a deal with you, Chris. I’ll try to keep my “slapping the bible out of the hands of heroin addicts” to a minimum, but I’m not throwing in the towel just yet. I didn’t sign the armistice, so anybody who wants to wave their white flag is free to do so, but I’ll keep my spurs on, thank you very much. Vive la raison!
Guardian Piece: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/24/atheism-richard-dawkins-challenge-beliefs-homeless
Headlines:
Joining me for headlines tonight is a man who hates more people by 9am than most people hate all day, Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to unload some pre-breakfast avarice?
This is word for word, what the guy in front of me at the bagel store said to the cashier. I burned it into my brain as I walked home: (quote) “It’s been really cold, but I heard it’s getting warmer today. Seems like everything happens in 20 year cycles. I guess that contradicts Al Gore’s global warming theory, like in books. I’m not a scientist, but I reed the internet. Gotta sell those newspapers. Anything’s possible.” (end quote) This is a full-grown adult human being.
Did you follow him long enough to see if he got the bagel into the correct orifice? I’m dying to know now.
Well his 47th chromosome kept dangling in the way, but for better or worse, he put the bagel in the same orifice the bullshit was coming out of earlier. Interesting two way valve … Bagel entry, bullshit exit.
Frees up room in his ass for his head, I suppose.
In our lead story tonight, from the “Mean jokes hurt my vagina through my legal briefs” file, Fordham University law professor and Willy Wonka stunt double – Thane Rosenbaum – is suggesting the First Amendment needs to stop protecting the mean kid that picked on him in school. Apparently he would always fuck up the rubber and glue thing, so he decided it’s probably best to constitutionally ban all speaking, if you don’t have something nice to say. Religious whiners have to promise not to abuse the proposed law.
And for the record, Heath’s not being vague here or anything. This dude is actually calling for the criminalization of words that hurt people’s feelings.
Rosencrantz argues (quote) “In placing limits on speech we privilege physical over emotional harm. Indeed, we have an entire legal system, and an attitude toward speech, that takes its cue from a nursery rhyme: ‘Stick and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me.'” (end quote) … Yes!!! Of fucking course we do!!! Of fucking course we have a legal system that says physical harm is worse than emotional harm!!!
Not according to Rosenstein. He claims that emotional harm is even worse than physical harm. So I propose an experiment. Me and him, in a room. He gets a thesaurus, I get a ball peen hammer. Whoever cries uncle first loses. Science, bitches.
And it’s good, observational science. Maybe you could murder Ken Ham with a hammer too. I don’t like the fact that bigots and racists are allowed to talk, but I don’t always sell the sarcasm when I talk, so I’d be censored all the time too. If we’re drawing a line … “No being attacked with sticks and stones by constitutionally protected violent packs of Neo-Nazis” seems like a reasonable place. But you have to let them say ‘kike’, or else I can’t say ‘kike’ ironically like this.
Also, I left a comment on the article saying I was offended by the article and he didn’t take it down, so clearly this is all lip-service.
Exactly!!! Guildenstern seems to be ignoring the fact that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING is offensive to some over-sensitive asshole. SCIENCE is offensive to a good chunk of this country!!! … I won’t mention any names – but there’s a Muslim religion out there that was incited to violent riots and murder plots, when a newspaper released some cartoon drawings of their dude. This is America, and our founding fathers intended for us to make YouTube videos of Muhammad getting hit in the crotch with a shovel, and sharing a cup with two girls. Can a brotha get a mental image fatwa?!? Please – I’m begging!!!
Mean jokes hurt my vagina: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/30/should-neo-nazis-be-allowed-free-speech.html <<and>> http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/02/04/law-professor-says-free-speech-in-the-u-s-goes-too-far-wants-to-criminalize-causing-hurt-feelings
And in “Go ahead and set up the clock right away” news, Pope Frango Unchained reserved himself at least 30 seconds of coverage on our show by blessing the parrot of an Italian porn star and former world-champion of male strippers with the stage name “GuyBlowj”.
Popes are bless-whores, though. He’s out there in St. Peter’s Square; “I’ll bless this bitch, I’ll bless that bitch… I’ll bless anything that moves!!!”
“I hate guys!!! I love birds!!!” So that all happened. Might as well get straight to it. I guess we’re looking for papal porn titles with bird involvement??? … And it’s almost like he’s challenging us – personally – to work all three concepts into the segment. I say we fucking do it!!! This might be the first ever list of triple entendre religious porn titles with birds. Right here, exclusively on The Scathing Atheist!!! Christian Pornithology Titles: GO!!!
Okay, but the transcript of this show is gonna link some pretty fucked up search terms to our blog… how about… fuck, this is really hard. How about… you go first.
“Mass Pirates of the Caribbean” … Someone would fuck the parrot at some point. Or maybe the parrot- you get the idea.
“Rectums in the Rectory: The Back Door to Parrot-ice”
“Fowl Balls with the Taint Louis Cardinals” … Tagline: “Sliding Head First Into Third Base”
Pope Who’s Your Fraddy and his Papal Balls in “Whip Out Your Tits”… because, you know, tits are a type of bird. Or hooters. I could have gone hooters. Or boobies.
“What Would Jesus Goo: Osprey it Forward”
“Canary-Caged Clergy: Albatrossing the Salad”
In honor of the champs … “Holy SeeHawks Tight End Vultures Touch Down There.”
And in honor of the 8th runner up for the last NFC Wild Card spot, “Jesus Falcon Christ”
“Priests Bask in Robin the Cradle”
The Cockring of the Kingfisher-man
“Blowing Through Bible College: Loads of Sermon Are Easy to Swallow”
“Woody Good-Pecker: Confessionals of a Sapsucker”
The Penis Miter than the Sword … Bird- Fuck!!! …
Pope blesses male porn star’s pet parrot: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/31/pope-francis-porn-star-parrot_n_4703413.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
And in “Muggin’ Queers for Jesus” news tonight, Colorado Springs fundamentalist reverend Michael Abromovich proved this week that it’s getting harder and harder to break into “Anti-gay pastor caught with gay prostitute” newscycle fame this week by adding a new twist. Instead of just fucking them and condemning them to hell, Abromovich allegedly kidnapped and robbed his man-whores while impersonating a police officer. Because felonies are like Pokemon.
And STDs, if you’re fucking gay prostitutes.
According to reports, the rascally reverend found his victims on a special website reserved for felonious perverts in search of vulnerable targets called “Craig’s List”. He would then arrange for a romantic rendezvous with them and when they arrived he would announce himself as a US Marshall, then handcuff and rob them.
Well the way some of these gay whores were dressed in their profile pic, they’re almost asking for it. Seriously though, if you actually wanted to sell that service, how do you legally advertise “I’ll be the terrorist’s wife, and you be the FBI Agent that abducts me and tortures me at GitMo.”???
A question I’ve been asking myself for years. An imaginary spokesman for Abromovich’s church told the Scathing Atheist that (quote) “It’s alright on account of he was just robbin’ ‘em, not fuckin’ ‘em in the butthole… so god’s cool with it”
Pastor hired male prostitutes and then robbed them by pretending to be a cop: http://www.christianpost.com/news/colo-pastor-charged-with-impersonating-police-robbery-and-kidnapping-after-propositioning-men-on-craigslist-113551/
And in “Decepti-Con” news tonight, the Southern Baptist Convention is hosting an event in Nashville aimed at teaching pastors how to trick people into abstaining from things like watching porn, being gay, … and being straight from age thirteen through nineteen.
Hmm… Well I guess nothing inspires abstinence like a southern baptist sex convention. Shame the pope blessed that parrot-fucker or we could put a few seconds on the clock for some Baptist abstinence porn.
I’d like to assume the general theme at this thing would be that nearly every single set of sexual behaviors is better than the church’s current go-to scandal makers. But even if they decided to be bold and come out against rabid homophobia and organized pedophilia, I’m sure they’ll have some nuanced panel discussions to really think it all through.
Yeah, because the absurd denial of the most potent animalian instinct has been working so well for them so far…
The church claims it might reword its current stance on sex, which reads something like: “Build up blue balls for about a decade, and then lose your virginity on your wedding night over the course of one pump, at which point you blow a 10-year load down her Fallopian Tubes like a shotgun, spawning octuplets. Repeat this 5-second experience once every nine months until your wife’s vagina explodes.”
Southern Baptist Convention to sponsor sex summit: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/27/topics-at-summit-hosted-by-southern-baptist-leadership-include-teen-sex/
And finally tonight, in “Helena Handbasket” news tonight, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Helena, Montana will become the latest diocese to declare bankruptcy in connection with forcing their cocks into children. The diocese is accused of covering up the molestation of at least 362 children in a state with the population density of the Sahara desert, so I guess kudos for finding that many kids of raping age.
That many unwilling kids … of raping age. By the way, what is the age of non-consent in Montana? Same as Vatican City?
A spokesman for the Vatican said, (quote) “Don’t worry about it, we’ve got plenty of money and we want to make sure that those poor victimized children that were subject to our sinister and willful neglect get full monetary restitution for the sadistic crimes we knowingly subjected them to, so we’ll step in and cover the bill” (end quote) adding (quote), “No, I’m fucking with you, we don’t give a shit about raped kids.”
It would be offensive to put a dollar value on rape victimhood, so they’re putting no dollars on it. If you’re willing to wait in the long “rape victim” line … which must operate like a busy DMV at this point … the Vatican can get you some shekels and a railroad bond.
No, the raped kids are getting some cash in the settlement. As it turns out there is a dollar value on one’s innocence and prepubescent anal virginity and that value is a little under forty grand before taxes. As part of the negotiated settlement the church will pay out 2.5 million dollars of the total 15 million they were ordered to pay to the 362 known victims of just this diocese. The remaining 12.5 million will be paid by insurers which means that, whatever they choose to call it, Catholic churches have “butt-raping-children” insurance.
Gotta cover your ass … When Geico wrote that policy, the premium must have been tiny. “What should I charge these guys? There’s NO WAY the Catholic Church is gonna systematically cover up thousands of clergy rapes … is there? Why would anyone even ask for this type of insurance?”
Well according to Thane Jewy-name from the lead story, at least these priests had the decency to rape their assholes instead of calling them assholes.
This show is so fucking highbrow that we have anti-semitic Hamlet references built in with our rape jokes. Shakespeare bitches!!!
Catholic Diocese in Montana files for bankruptcy with 350+ abuse settlements pending: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140131/NATION/301310087/1041/LIFESTYLE04/Catholic-diocese-Montana-file-bankruptcy-protection
And on that liberal application of gravitas, we’ll close the headlines segment. Heath, thanks for joining me.
Jumanji!
And when we return Cecil from Cognitive Dissonance will be here to see which of us can say fuck more times in ten minutes.
Skit:
NOAH
Joining us tonight is intrepid podcaster and reigning champion of the Fantasy Football League of Sinister Secularists, Cecil from the Cognitive Dissonance Podcast. Cecil, welcome to the Scathing Atheist.
CECIL
Thanks for having me on.
NOAH
I invited you on to talk about your extremely funny and well-produced podcast, but before we get to that I suppose I should congratulate you. As many of our listeners know, we both participated in a Secular Podcasters’ Fantasy Football League this season and met in the championship game, where you exploited the unfair advantage of having both the number one fantasy quarterback in the league and the number one fantasy running back in the league to narrowly defeat me.
CECIL
Responds with good sportsmanship and humility
NOAH
Now you and your partner Tom do an excellent podcast called Cognitive Dissonance where you tackle atheist and skeptical issues with the same vulgar irreverence that Heath and I strive for here. In the past three years, you’ve interviewed some of the leading lights in the skeptical movement including David Silverman, Matt Dillahunty, Seth Andrews, Mike Hall, Sean Faircloth, DJ Grothe, George Hrab and Michael Marshall. So my first question to you is how the fuck does a person win a fantasy championship when they’re starting Logan-fucking-Paulsen at tight end?
CECIL
It’s actually funnier than that – I drafted Heath Miller, who was hurt for 4 weeks of the season, then when he got better he scored as many fucking points as he did on the bench. The Logan Paulsen thing was trying to fill a roster spot through free agency at the end of the year… You know like most of your team. HA HA Just Kidding! [Thinking you are joking around] No, it’s been great. We’ve had good guests…. blah blah blah
NOAH
Okay, and I guess the obvious question is whether it’s harder or easier to do your show every week with the guilty knowledge that you crushed the hopes and dreams of everyone else in our fantasy league. Have you lost any sleep over that?
CECIL
If anything I’ve been sleeping better. I find that my natural melatonin levels go up the more dreams that I crush. [still thinking you are joking around]
NOAH
Well, did it ever occur to you that for you to win, that meant everybody else in the world had to NOT win? That doesn’t eat away at you like a carnivorous bacteria? Because I think it should.
CECIL
Ummm – bro, it’s just a game…. Can we talk about podcasting now?
NOAH
Yeah… Sorry. I just… okay, so you and Tom have been a team for quite some time. You’ve recorded over one hundred and thirty episodes of Cognitive Dissonance and before that you guys did a movie review podcast together.
CECIL
Everyone’s a Critic, yeah.
NOAH
So do you think that your friendship will suffer if Tom ever learns what a heartless cheater you are when it comes to Fantasy Football?
CECIL
How the fuck did I cheat? I didn’t make a single trade all year. What, did I crack in the back end of Yahoo sports? How the fuck could you possibly cheat at Fantasy Football?
NOAH
A secret you’ll no doubt take to your grave.
CECIL
Do you have any actual podcast related questions for me, or did you just invite me on so you can be butt hurt about me beating you at Fantasy Football?
NOAH
Okay, I’ve got a podcast related question for you, Cheaty McCheaterson, do you cheat at that too? Do you just download your own show over and over again to move up the iTunes ranks?
CECIL
Did you fucking get multiple accounts to give us negative ratings? Jesus christ – I’m done.
NOAH
Yeah, you know, I figured you’d plead the fifth at some point, so I brought along a character witness as well. So in our best podcasting equivalent to someone running out from backstage slapping and pulling hair, after you failed a lie detector test about fatherhood, Tom, do we have you on the line?
TOM
Yep.
NOAH
Tom, welcome to the show, you are by far my favorite co-host of Cognitive Dissonance and, as I understand it, the one that never cheats at Fantasy Football.
TOM
Thanks. You have excellent taste in Cognitive Dissonance hosts.
NOAH
So, Tom, how much do you know about Fantasy Football?
TOM
About as much as I know about lunar geography.
NOAH
Okay, so let me give you a brief description…
TOM
I’d rather you didn’t…
NOAH (Talking over TOM)
It’s a game where friends get together and predict which players they think will perform the best each week. And it’s really fun until somebody like Cecil comes through and sucks all the joy out of it like a grid-iron succubus. So my question to you is, in your experience, is Cecil a big, fat cheater?
TOM
Well… he’s big and fat.
CECIL
Tom, I’ve watched you eat a whole half a cow in one sitting. You unhinged your jaw like a python so you could fit more in your face.
NOAH
So Cecil, when you’re cheating at Fantasy Football, do you find it easier if you dehumanize your opponents or do you just have a sociopathic disjunction with human empathy?
CECIL
(Sighs) Alright, Noah, enough. We get it, you’re a sore loser.
NOAH
Not when I lose fair.
CECIL
You started Jay Cutler at Quarterback! You put Percy Harvin on your roster 6 fucking weeks before he was healthy! You started Dwayne Bowe, for fuck’s sake. He hadn’t had a good game all season. Look, you invited me on to this show to talk about our podcast. If I’d known you were just gonna berate me for kicking your ass at Fantasy, I wouldn’t have bothered.
NOAH
Kicking my ass!? You won by less than four points!
TOM
Should I just go get a burger or something?
CECIL
It’s amazing what four well placed points can do….
NOAH
…Cheat Loaf Sandwich…
CECIL
When you…
NOAH
…Trick or Cheat…
CECIL
Alright, listen…
NOAH
…I’ll listen on my “Cheats by Dr. Dre” headphones.
CECIL
Okay, I’m done.
NOAH
Fine. Then I’m done too.
CECIL
Fine.
NOAH
Fine.
(a second of awkward silence)
TOM
C’mon guys. We’re all friend’s here.
NOAH
I’m not friends with… Cheater Frampton over there. [Cheater frampton made me lol]
TOM
C’mon, Noah… we all set aside some time this evening, set up the gear… it’s not too late to salvage the interview.
NOAH
Well, I’m not talking to Cheatwood Mac until he apologizes for cheating in the championship game.
CECIL
Until I apologize? I think if anybody here deserves an apology, it’s me.
NOAH
Tom, can you tell Don Cheatle over there that I don’t apologize to cheaters?
CECIL
Oh for fuck’s sake!
TOM
(Awkwardly) Cecil, Noah… um… doesn’t apologize…
CECIL
(Sternly) I heard him Tom.
NOAH
You see? You see how he gets?
CECIL
How I get!? You’re acting like a four year old. And what’s more, you do this all the time. You got like this every time you lost a match all year.
NOAH
Tom, can you tell Cecil, “Did not”?
TOM
Cecil, Noah says, “did not.”
CECIL
Really? Well it turns out that I also brought along a character witness. Heath, do we have you on the line?
HEATH
Yo.
CECIL
So Heath, you were in this fantasy football league with Noah and I. Let me ask you, is he a sore loser?
HEATH
He once put his head through my rear windshield over a game of washers. <<Game wasn’t even over yet.>>
CECIL
And in your estimation, is he a childish dick a lot of the time?
HEATH
Not only is he a childish dick, but according to Lucinda, he has a childish dick as well. <<Like a roll of quarters.>> [DIMES]
NOAH
Hey!
TOM
My wife says there’s nothing wrong with that.
CECIL
He’s like that when he does the podcast, too, isn’t he?
HEATH
We only recorded one segment with our dicks out, and I didn’t- Oh you mean being a draconian bastard… yeah.
CECIL
I don’t know why you do it. You know, you don’t have to put up with an abusive co-host.
HEATH
It’s tough, but I don’t want to do the editing.
CECIL
It’s not that hard.
NOAH
Tom, can you tell Heath that I’m no longer talking to him, either?
TOM
Heath, Noah’s not…
CECIL
Is recording with him always like this?
HEATH
Yep.
NOAH
Tom, can you tell Heath to tell Cecil that it is not?
CECIL
You know, Heath, we might have room for you over at Cognitive Dissonance, if it can help get you out of this abusive relationship.
HEATH
Really?
CECIL
Sure. You’re way funnier than Tom.
TOM
Wait, what?
CECIL
Sorry, bro, but it’s true. Have you heard this dude when he gets going?
TOM
(Offended) Well… Noah, can you tell Cecil that “Fuck you”?
NOAH
No, because I’m not talking to him, but I can text Heath and ask him to tell him.
CECIL
Just think about how much easier your life could be, Heath.
NOAH
Okay then, you know what, fuck it. Tom and I are gonna make our own show. C’mon Tom…
(Fade in Cog-Dis theme)
TOM
This is the Cognitive Atheist. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way; we put 30 seconds on the clock; we bring critical thinking, skepticism and naughty bible stories to any topic that makes the news, makes it big or makes for good dick jokes. It’s scathing, it’s political and there is no Cecil or Heath. This is episode number… um…(sound of shuffling through papers)
NOAH
One, Tom. This is episode one.
TOM
Right. Episode one.
Outro:
Before we declare victory tonight, I wanted to let everybody know about a very awesome book they might want to pick up. Just got a copy of it myself and I can’t recommend it enough. For those of you who have neglected our numerous warnings that reading the bible sucks and insist on reading along with the Holy Babble segment anyway, I’d like to recommend Steve Wells’ excellent “Skeptic’s Annotated Bible”, which gives you the full King James along with the kind of commentary and annotations our audience craves in a bible. We’ll try to get Steve on the show soon to talk about this massive undertaking, but between now and then you can pick up a copy on Amazon or check it out online at SkepticsAnnotatedBible.com. You’ll find a link on the shownotes.
Skeptic’s Annotated Bible on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Skeptics-Annotated-Bible-Steve-Wells-ebook/dp/B00I76ROXK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391705185&sr=8-1&keywords=the+skeptic%27s+annotated+bible
Online Version: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
That’s all the blasphemy we have for you tonight, but if you want more, there’s more. I had the honor of being the first guest panelist on the new podcast Atheistically Speaking (from the people that brought you Thomas and the Bible) and you’ll be able to hear that… I believe next Thursday, but I’ll be posting links on Facebook, Twitter and the blog as soon as they’re available so keep up with us there.
Atheistically Speaking Podcast: http://atheisticallyspeaking.com/
Oh, and I’ve been told a number of times that I should spell it out, so if you want to find me on Twitter it’s at Noah Lugeons, that’s @NOAH (underscore) LUGEONS.
And speaking of Twitter, I wanted to thank Twitter Atheist extraordinaire “Secular Bloke” for providing this week’s Farnsworth quote. One of my favorite online Twitter-ologists, definitely worth a follow. I also, of course, need to thank Tom and Cecil for being such good sports. When I asked them to come on and do a skit with us, I doubt they were expecting me to send over a ten page script so thanks a ton for that. And of course, if you haven’t checked out their show, you’ve gotta do that. If you like our show, which, let’s face it, you do, you’re probably gonna like theirs as well. Same blasphemously vulgar lack of a moral compass as you get here, but longer. You’ll find a link to their website on the shownotes for this episode as well.
Secular Bloke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/secularbloke
Cognitive Dissonance Podcast: http://dissonancepod.com/
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If You Insist on Reading Along…
by Noah Lugoens
As of this afternoon, I’m the proud owner of an autographed, first edition copy of The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible. Huge thanks to author Steve Wells and the folks over at Atheists On Air for making it happen. This is a beautifully bound book, but it’s also the most useful resource I could imagine while we’re constructing our tri-weekly Holy Babble segments. The book presents the biblical text, but Steve Wells has painstakingly and exhaustively cataloged all the contradictions, sexism, violence and laugh out loud lunacy so even when you start reading in that begat-induced catatonic state, you won’t miss any of the horror or hypocrisy.
Of course, when I got it, I flipped straight to 1 Chronicles, as this is the book of the bible I’ve read most recently. Sure enough, after only a glance, I was wishing I’d had this work available when we were doing our last “Holy Babble” segment. At the very least I’d have liked to know that in Wells’ estimation it was the most boring book of the bible (and, in his words, “maybe the most boring book in all of literature”), so I’d know that it wasn’t going to bottom out any deeper.
We’ve said a number of times that on the Holy Babble , we’re reading the bible so you don’t have to. Despite that intention and our constant caveats about how mind-numbingly boring it is, I know that many of our listeners are reading along. I don’t necessarily endorse it, but I know that it’s happening.
So if you can’t resist the temptation of multiple chapters of genealogies and psychotic divine vengeance, I strongly recommend you pick up a copy of Wells’ book. I provided an Amazon link once already, but here it is again in case you missed it. It’s definitely going to be the easiest way to get all you want to get out of the experience, but let’s face it, if you’re spending money buying a bible there’s a good chance you’re paying to support something that you fundamentally oppose. This gives you an opportunity to put that money in the hands of somebody who definitely won’t use it to accidentally fund child-rape-conspiracy settlements.
Episode 50 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Noah & Lucinda Lugeons and Eli Bosnick
(Note: Transcript contains elements that were edited due to time constraints)
Warning: This podcast contains explicit language. And this week, we’re going for the record.
Sponsor:
This week’s episode of the Scathing Atheist is brought to you by the new Nepalese cancer-curing carbonated cow piss soda, Mount Hin-Du.
Mount Hin-Du; we put the Brahman in Brominated vegetable oil.
And now, the Scathing Atheist.
Intro:
It’s Thursday,
It’s January 30th
And we’re doing a full-hour this week, so you have to pay double.
I’m Noah Lugeons,
I’m Heath Enwright and from nearly 4th Avenue-less New York, New York…
…and less-than-4-avenues-having Podunk, Georgia, this is the Scathing Atheist.
In this week’s episode,
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A preacher learns the hard way that despite what the Bible says, poison can kill you,
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I’ll offer a Nebraska state senator a rim job,
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He’ll bargain his way up to a rusty trombone,
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And Eli Bosnick will join us to justify a fourth bullet point.
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe:
The other day I got an email from Tyler. Tyler used to be an atheist, but now he or she has accepted Jesus Christ as his or her personal savior and wanted to come on the show to tell all of us heathens the wonderful news about Jesus. He or she offered to answer any questions we might have about Jesus-iness with the warning that he or she was (quote) “not an expert in theology”.
So here I have this rare opportunity to speak with somebody who loves Jesus and doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. How could I say no? Well, here’s how:
“Thanks for your email, Tyler. I can only assume that you’ve never listened to the show and are only responding to the word ‘atheist’ in the title, but let me assure you that nobody who listens to our program wants to hear you talk about Jesus. Thanks anyway.”
To which Tyler offered a one word reply, (quote) “okay.”
This is not the first Christian who has tried to wriggle their way onto our docket of future guests. It used to happen once a month or so, but now I’m getting requests like these at least once a week. Some of them are from theists that want to debate the merit of their particular fantasy and some are from avid listeners that just want to hear that debate.
And my answer is always the same, though when it’s a listener I phrase it a bit more congenially. My answer is “no”, and if I’m pressed for an explanation it’s some derivative of “‘cause I don’t wanna.” I don’t want to engage these people, I don’t want to pretend that there’s some merit to their argument, I don’t want to listen to the blithering bastardization of science in their arsenal, I don’t want to be polite and I also don’t want to shout “go fuck yourself” at somebody I’ve invited on the show. What’s more, I don’t want to subject our listeners to it.
Not all of these aspiring guests are as cordial as Tyler, of course. Many of them lash out at me in response and accuse me of cowardice, of intellectual dishonesty, of insulating myself behind a wall of like-minded opinions. They paint the picture of a terrified psyche, desperately clinging to the untenable belief that invisible wizards play no part in human affairs, fearful that if somebody comes on our show and says Jesus a lot my worldview will crumble around me and the god-sized hole in my heart will bleed out.
The arrogance here would be staggering if I weren’t already so familiar with the audacity of Christian privilege. They seem to think that as an atheist I’m duty bound to offer equal time to the opinion that we started the podcast to offset; as though I’m under some obligation to use the platform we’ve created to promote the point of view antithetical to my own. It’s not enough for them that there are five hundred Christian programs for every atheist program, they want to be on ours as well. What’s more, they feel that they have some kind of divine right to it.
And why? Is it a staple of Christian entertainment to bring on the biblical scholar and show them how wrong they’ve got it? Do most sermons end with an atheist counterpoint? Does Joel O’Steen spend much time debating heathens on his podcast? And do these same bitter fuck monkeys that contact me also write in to Jewish podcasts and Buddhists podcasts and Wiccan podcasts demanding that they defend their faith in an Oxford style debate?
Don’t get me wrong; I’m not against public debates. As long as they’re not being used to raise money for an institution dedicated to anti-scientific indoctrination (ahem) Bill Nye (ahem), I’m all for the atheist community engaging. I’m glad there are people like Sam Harris and Shelly Kagan out there making William Lane Craig look stupid. And I’m happy there are shows like the Atheist Experience that take all comers and engage with whatever nincompoop calls in. I’m glad that shows like that exist, I just don’t want to host one.
And no, it’s not because I’m afraid I’ll lose. It’s pretty easy to win a debate when the other side is trying to prove that Jack’s beanstalk really existed. But just because I can shovel a large pile of shit doesn’t mean I want to, and it sure doesn’t mean that anybody would want to listen to it if I did.
Besides, debate isn’t just about presenting the better argument. Sometimes the person with all the facts on their side can lose a debate in the eyes of the audience just by seeming arrogant, condescending and deliberately insulting. And if there’s anything this show has proven in its first 49 episodes, it’s that I’m arrogant, condescending and deliberately insulting.
Headlines:
Joining me for headlines this week is semi-professional vulgarian Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to be vulgar?
What, no fancy montage for me?
(Heath cursing montage)
Do I really fucking curse that much?
In our lead story tonight, Oklahoma Republican lawmaker Mike Turner has proposed a bill that would protect Oklahomans from the dark forces of two-cock wedlock this week by banning marriage altogether. Arguing that the fucking baby shouldn’t have been mixed in with the bathwater in the first place, Turner argues that the courts have left him no other legal recourse for his wretched, small-minded hostility.
Are they under the impression that the gay-marriage-ban thing has been working so far?!? If they let this one slide, dudes are gonna start having butt sex for the first time? Spawning gay families?
The scrap of sanity hidden in his morass of malevolence is the Libertarian notion that states shouldn’t be in the business of regulating marriage, a point that might have debatable merit if it weren’t derived entirely from faith-fueled fanaticism. To his credit, Turner makes no attempt to sell this legislation as based on high-minded principles; crediting the inspiration for the move entirely to god’s well-advertised hatred of fags.
Can we stop pretending that legislation about the definition of the word ‘marriage’ makes any fucking difference. This is Christian assholes finding absurdist measures to make sure gay people can’t get taxed fairly. As if eternal damnation isn’t punishment enough.
Ryan Kiesel, executive director of the Oklahoma ACLU characterizes the move as desperate political posturing that is all but guaranteed to fail. When asked about the proposed ban, Kiesel called the legislators backing the bill (quote) “…out of touch with most Oklahomans” (end quote), though off the record I’m sure he called them a hell of a lot worse than that.
Oklahoma Republican introduces bill to block gay marriage in by outlawing marriage: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/25/oklahoma-republicans-bill-would-block-same-sex-marriage-by-stopping-all-marriages/
And in “Ejaculate the Ripper” news, Georgia church official Craig Lamar Davis was found guilty of felony charges, for willfully spreading the HIV virus, despite his defense that his AIDS diagnosis only happened because of all the crack he smokes. When asked by prosecutors: “Then why are you taking AIDS medicine?” … Davis responded that it’s a preventative measure, after he heard a rumor that coincidentally all the women he sleeps with have AIDS somehow.
So here’s how fucked the Davis defense team was: Apparently part of their defense strategy was to put some AIDS denialists on the stand and argue that there’s no such thing as AIDS. And that AIDS doesn’t come from HIV. And that HIV tests are all bullshit anyway. Hard to imagine how they lost this one.
Apparently it’s easier to get a job at a church than it is to become an Amsterdam hooker. And Amsterdam hookers can literally be high on crack in the interview, as long as they don’t also have AIDS. Bottom line: They preside over similar amounts of sexual activity, but Dutch pimps are far more responsible about it (and consensual about it) than God’s HR department.
The thing they actually found him guilty of was “reckless HIV”. That’s how they actually phrase it; two counts of reckless HIV. Makes me think of him accidentally jacking off on somebody’s salad or something, “Oh, I’m sorry, did I get HIV on your plate? How reckless of me.”
And because I’m also a twisted fuck, this story made me think of Billy Joel playing $10,000 Pyramid with Peter Griffin …
Billy Joel: “AIDS … Crack … Bernie Goetz …”
Peter Griffin: “Things that kill black people?”
I was gonna go with “things that have been in Amy Winehouse’s vagina”
But I think we’re a little off track, so just to summarize: The church official didn’t know about his AIDS because of the crack, and then couldn’t help but jizz-murder those women, because good Christians don’t use condoms.
This story has crack, HIV, and church: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/defendant-in-hiv-trial-found-guilty/ncwb6
And from the “At the Very God Damned Least” file tonight, a Nepalese court has ruled that when you rob children of their youth in order to worship them as temporary incarnations of a mythical being for a few years before tossing them back into the world educationally and socially retarded, you have to give them money.
Right assuming they only work their prepubescent slave-goddesses 60 hours a week for 5 years, they get about 78 cents an hour back-pay, spread out over 10 years, assuming laid-off Pre-Cogs can get new work and survive in society for that long.
The ruling was a small step toward righting the insane and despicable institution of “Kumari”, in which little girls are worshipped as living goddesses until they get a muff tuft. Apparently the girls are selected by strict physical criterion that includes shit like (quote) “an unblemished body, a chest like a lion and thighs like a deer.” But just in case the thought of a team of experts examining the chests and thighs of prepubescent girls didn’t boil your blood at all, the few girls who are unlucky enough to meet the strict physical requirements must then prove their bravery by not crying while watching a buffalo get slaughtered. At ages as young as FOUR. And then the winner gets to live in a temple where they’ll be paraded around as objects of worship while not getting an education or having a childhood.
America has a more efficient system for dealing with the JonBenet Ramseys in our culture, when we’re done with them.
I think it’s important to note that the court isn’t ending this practice. They’re not phasing it out or forcing the temple to give the girls eight hours a day of education and some free time to fuck around with a rainbow loom or anything. All they’ve done here is ruled that the girls have to be paid a pension for a few years after all this psychological abuse. So apparently they weren’t even doing that.
Nepalese girls kidnapped by prehistoric nonsense to be compensated: http://www.gulf-times.com/nepal/250/details/377883/ex-kumari-welcomes-pension
And in “C-word isn’t just for Caucasian” news, Christian talking head and vice-presidential candidate abortion Sarah Palin celebrated Martin Luther King Day by telling President Obama that in honor of her nigga MLK, he should stop playing the race card … Which is physically impossible. Black people can’t stop playing the race card. Barack Obama, despite his very best efforts, can’t just get a white library card and stop being a black President.
Yeah, she’s on a limb even in her own party on this one. Most republican Christians don’t want to revoke the race card; they just want to make sure you bring three forms of ID when you renew it.
There is speculation that Palin’s comments were a response to a recent New Yorker article, in which an Obama quote points out that some people like the idea of a black President, and some people dislike the idea of a black President. Apparently this self-evident truth came off as a venomous Black Panther rant to the Alaskan hockey mom, who runs a neighborhood watch that helps NORAD visually detect Russian nuclear attacks. If she’s scared of Obama, I want to see her interviewed with Richard Sherman.
Well she does have some credential on this issue. She was the governor of Alaska and you can see black people from Alaska, so she probably knows her shit.
So is it just me, or do you wish that MLK could hate fuck Sarah Palin, and you could pay $100 to watch??? … Famous civil rights leaders fucking awful white bitches … That’s a porn goldmine. Which segues smoothly to about half a minute of clever new titles we’ll think up on the spot, right now.
30 seconds on the clock. Civil rights leaders fantasy porn titles: GO!!!
“White Dicks Palin Comparison to Malcolm’s XXL”
Susan B. On-her-knees starring in “The Undergown Railroad”
Right, with Harriet Chubman as the black hermaphrodite.
“Nelson Mandela Living in Bondage: Apar-Tied to the Bed Posts.”
Three Missing Civil Rights Workers, One Cup? Too soon? To do another two girls one cup joke?
No such thing. The whole point of the genre is to see Anne Coulter get shat on …
So what about “Scat Turner’s Revolt”??? … “Desmond’s Number Tutu”???
Gotta get some guy on guy golden shower titles in there too, like “Martin Luther Queen in ‘I Have a Stream’”. I believe Frederick Dug-Ass was in that too.
Pee at last! Pee at last! …
Louis Farra-Conjugal Visits: The Insemi-Nation of Islam … Filmed on location at Martha Stewart’s Country Club Jail: Where choking a bitch is a white collar crime.
I like the Suffrage and Discipline stuff. Like Elizabeth Cady Strap-on.
“Rosa Parks It in the Rear” … That one’s ironic, because black women don’t usually like anal.
Jesse Jacks-Off Jesse Jackson?
What about “Hand Jobs for Strokely Carmichael: Finally some white people doing manual labor.”
W.E.T. DuBoys and Medgar Whenevers in N Double D CP
Sarah Palin lectures Obama on race for MLK Day: http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-on-mlk-day-tonedeaf-sarah-palin-says-obama-plays-the-race-card-20140120,0,3099194.story#axzz2rPG7wjaO
And in the disturbingly thin “Midwestern lawmakers who aren’t dogmatic turd-cuddlers” file, Nebraska state senator and openly atheist pioneer Ernie Chambers has introduced a bill that would eliminate state property-tax exemptions for churches. Because you’d have to be a fucking idiot not see the logic in that. Unfortunately for the future of the proposal, his colleagues largely don’t see the logic in that.
I love this guy Ernie Chambers, but his title “Most Atheist Member of the Nebraska State Senate” isn’t that impressive. Neither is “Smartest Member of the Nebraska State Senate” or “Blackest Member of the Nebraska State Senate”. It’s like “Oldest Kid in the Cancer Ward”.
The language of his bill read almost like an audition to be a co-host on this show. He basically just copied the existing list of exemptions and crossed out the word “religious” wherever it appeared. He didn’t delete it, mind you, he left it there, but crossed out. And as if that wasn’t awesome enough, in his statement of intent for the bill he reminded his Christian colleagues that Jesus was all about rendering unto Caesar what was Caesar’s and closed with the following actual quote: “All things considered, I expect my colleagues to say, regarding this bill: “Let thy will be done.” To which I can atone: “Amen.” (end quote)
Yeah his whole statement of intent was hilarious. My favorite line might have been his opener: (quote) “The purpose of LB 675 is to help the State gain more revenue, rather than less, by taking away churches’ property tax exemptions.” (end quote)
Yeah, I would almost lick this dude’s asshole based solely on this story. Of course, unlike the “outlaw-marriage so fags can’t have ‘em” bill we discussed earlier, this one has absolutely no chance of success, but it did boost Chambers into potential running mate status with Barney Frank in the Scathing Atheist’s involuntary presidential ticket for 2016.
Senator suggests taxing property: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/23/nebraskas-atheist-state-senator-introduces-bill-that-would-force-churches-to-pay-property-taxes
And in “Natural Born Again Killers” news, it’s been 613 days, so it’s no longer too soon to laugh at West Virginia preacher Mark Wolford, who died from a rattlesnake bite after performing a service with the deadly reptile on May 27, 2012. As is often heard when redneck psychopaths have a mishap, someone yelled: “You get the truck! I’ll get the snake bite juice!” But instead of driving the truck to the hospital, Wolford was taken to a nearby safe house where they routinely take snake bite victims to rest themselves back to health. And because that’s stupid, he died.
If only all stupid was that fatal.
These guys are pushing that envelope as best they can. Adherents of venomous snake handling cite God’s words from Mark 16: “In my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” (end quote) …
This particular passage of the Bible has caused an entire category at the Darwin Awards. Among the former winners is Wolford’s father, who also died of a snake bite the same way. And as he watched his father die, he saw God give a subtle wink, which was apparently the really tricky sign this guy needed to carry on the family business.
So when this shit happens… generationally… it has to either be proof that Jesus isn’t a viable anti-venom or proof that these people don’t really love Jesus. I think it’s probably the latter so my suggestion is that all true Christians attempt rattlesnake cunnilingus so that we can weed out the imposters.
Why aren’t they focusing on the other suggestions?!? “Take up serpents” is obviously the worst one. It would be far less destructive if they fondled breast cancer patients, and didn’t heal them. Or if they just killed themselves by drinking poison.
West Virginia snake handling preacher dies from rattlesnake bite: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/30/11956841-snake-handling-preacher-dies-from-rattlesnake-bite-in-west-virginia
And in “I bet these idiots were wondering who Acklew was” news, the ACLU has filed suit against the Sabine Parish school district in Louisiana for a prodigious list of constitutional violations. The suit accuses the school of a (quote) “long history of proselytizing students and promoting religion” (end quote) including, but not limited to incorporation of Christian prayer into school events, religious iconography in the halls and classrooms, an electronic marquee with a constant scroll of bible verses, the inclusion of the words “god exists” on the statement of beliefs for the school district, faculty led bullying and ostracization of non-Christian students, religious questions on science exams, the explicit teaching of creationism, offering extra-credit for believing in the Christian god and holding mandatory prayer assemblies.
For the church to pay back all the tax money they’ve stolen, and then add all those 50-shekel payments to new dads on top of that … They’re financially and morally bankrupt 1000 times over, and therefore no longer allowed to exist!!!
Oh, believe it or not, this story gets worse. The ACLU is suing on behalf of a 6th grade Buddhist, whose science teacher allegedly included questions like (in all caps) “Isn’t it amazing what the (blank) has made” followed by, I shit you not, 32 exclamation points, and then called him stupid in front of the class when he refused to write “Lord” in the blank provided. When his mother complained to the Superintendent she was apparently told that this was the bible belt and if she didn’t like it her son should either change his faith or move to another district where there are (allegedly quote) “more Asians.”
Whoa!!! That’s Clossing the Rine!
ACLU sues LA school district for all kind of Christian bullshit: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/23/this-district-just-got-sued-for-teaching-creationism-offering-extra-credit-for-writing-bible-verses-on-tests-more/
Moving on to “Not Quite Two Birds With One Drone” news, Pope Franti-matter helped two children almost publicly murder a pair of “peace doves”, by releasing them from his weird little speaking window above St. Peter’s Square, only to be immediately attacked by two of Obama’s atheist drones, disguised as a seagull and a large black crow. The President denies any involvement, but he did give me a fist bump as he made the denial . . . And then he did this thing where he blew it up. Like (blow up sound) … Black people are so cool.
Yeah. When white people try for cool handshakes it ends up looking like Michael J Fox playing roshambo with Stephen Hawking. Black people got the style and the big dicks so I don’t know why they’re still so pissed that we got all the impartial justice and living wage jobs.
Catholics are traumatized, and suspect this is the work of Satan, Star Scream, or the Jews. Strangely enough, nobody suspects the godless, Kenyan, Muslim, homosexual in the White House, who was likely also behind the August 2013 sabotage of an Oral Roberts jingoism rally, in which they hired a bald eagle to fly on stage, and instead it crashed to the floor in epic failure as an auditorium full of idiots chanted “USA!!!”
And I’m surprised nobody’s put it together. Don’t they know that Kenyans can communicate with animals?
I saw his birth video when he talked to Mufasa … And what’s with white people and our endangered species fetish?!? We’re always doing ridiculous shit, like renting bald eagles, shooting pterodactyls with assault rifles, eating panda steaks, bow-hunting black people. Somebody needs to stop us, or we will continue ruining the world.
Pope releases peace-doves, which get attacked by atheist birds: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-francis-s-peace-doves-attacked-by-birds-at-vatican-1.2511761?cmp=fbtl
And on that somber admission we’ll close out the headlines, Heath, thanks as always.
Happy to be here.
And when we return Eli Bosnick will join us to remind everybody that he’s funny as fuck.
Pitch:
On January 18th of 2013, at 7:17am Malaysian Standard Time, a new podcast was born, released into a cruel and unforgiving world with only it’s wits to guide it.
That podcast, was this podcast.
And since that day we’ve consistently brought you a new show every Thursday without exception.
Except for the first five episodes when it was biweekly.
We’ve consistently provided 30 minutes of high quality dick jokes…
Except episodes 10 and 25, which were an hour..
And we’ve had them to you at precisely 8am Eastern Time, every week.
Except episodes 43 and 48, which you fucked up and dropped early.
Heath and I work tirelessly every week,
(ahem)
Heath, Lucinda and I work tirelessly every week to bring you the best half hour of blasphemy we can muster, often working upwards of 200 hours a week to make it happen.
There are only 168 hours in a week.
I meant between the 3 of us.
That’s still way high.
More like 100.
That’s still probably high.
But it’s a lot. And if you don’t believe me, just ask my wife.
And if you don’t believe me, just ask my vagina.
Wait, your vagina talks?
No, that was a joke.
But the point is that we work really hard.
We do.
Yeah.
And to continue to provide you with the highest quality fart jokes in the other religion podcast subcategory on iTunes, we need your help.
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You stole that line from Brian Dunning.
Pretty much, yeah.
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Wait, we weren’t gonna put ads in it…
Yeah, but they don’t know that.
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Panel Notes:
Award season is in full swing. You’ve already skipped the Golden Globes, avoided the Grammys, forgotten all about the People’s Choice Awards and you’re actively not giving a shit about the Oscars so we figured; why not squeeze one more meaningless ceremony into the season.
And in accordance with the fact that religious idiots think atheists believe in Satan, he we are hosting the “Penta-Grammys”.
That’s right. And in addition to a ready made pun, this also provides us a great opportunity to bring back friend of the show and audience favorite Eli Bosnick. Eli, welcome back. It’s been too long.
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Alright, so here’s how the Penta-Grammys work. We’ve randomly chosen a few categories for this inaugural ceremony and each of us will offer our nominee. And since winning awards was rendered meaningless in 2010 when they gave Sandra Bullock an Oscar, we’ll just leave it at the nomination phase.
Our first category is an obvious one and Heath, you’ll start us off; Best Religious News Item of 2013
The Scathing Atheist headline read something like: “Imaginary Jesus voices tell area man to exorcise Satan by blowing up the family puppy with an IED.”
Or, as friend of the show Tom from Cognitive Dissonance put it, “Worst shock collar ever.”
These were apparently the same voices that told him to prepare for a rapture, that kept not happening despite the Mayan Calendar not being infinite, and despite a now-dead Harold Camping having calculated the first derivative of the Bible to solve for Apocalypse. So the December 2012 rapture didn’t happen, the year 2013 did happen, Jesus helped murder a labrador retriever, and the End Times Calculus asshole died. Lots of good atheist lessons here, but the puppy murder takes it for me. We all know religion can trick people into torturing, raping, and killing other people, but that doesn’t seem to be a deal-breaker. Maybe the puppy thing will do it.
Satanist Memorial thing let this begin a movement all over.
Strangely, we actually haven’t had occasion to talk about the Satanic Monument on the show since they unveiled the design, so if you were pressed to describe the proposed monument to the audience, what would you say?
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Okay, so this isn’t a particular headline or anything, but I’m nominating the rise of the atheist church, or the godless congregation or whatever I have to call it to not piss off the people who don’t like them. I know a lot of people are stand-offish on the whole idea, but I look at it as a necessary step toward national secularism. So that’s my nominee for News Item of the Year.
Yeah stuff like Sunday Assembly is getting some steam in the States now too. Nice to see early evidence that people can hang out in groups on Sunday, without being self-righteous bigoted assholes about it.
Moving right along to our second category, this is a dubious distinction, I would think, but our second category is “Religious Figure Who Has Done the Most to Promote Atheism” and Eli, why don’t you start us out?
Pope Francis. Just changing his mind about everything. Next week he’s gonna be like “Eh…its a myth…who wants to get some PUSSY”
It really has been amazing. Just a quick list of some of the crazy shit he’s said in his first year of papacy:
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“Who am I to judge gay people?”
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“Atheists can get into heaven”
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“Bare tits in church? That’s cool”
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“I cast you out, unclean spirit, along with every Satanic power of the enemy, every spectre from hell and all your fell companions; in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ”
Didn’t he also mention something about “There is no Catholic god.”??? Maybe we can get him on the show to elaborate.
I’m going with Antonin Scalia. He’s not a religious figure per se, but he’s religious and he’s a figure. And he aptly demonstrated this year that no amount of education and academic achievement can make a Catholic not sound like a raging lunatic when he starts talking about religion.
For those who don’t recall, Scalia did an interview with New York Magazine where he admits to believing in an actual, physical, existent devil. And as if that wasn’t terrifying enough from a Supreme Court Justice, when he was pressed about why we never see any evidence of this magical embodiment of evil, he explained that (quote) “The devil’s getting wilier”
Despite the Pope’s skeptical stance on this guy, I’d like to nominate Catholic God. He’s clearly gone out of his way to be more than fair with us logical people recently. He’s literally bending kids over backwards to make atheism look good. And forwards. More bending over forwards, really. Depends if they’re blowing a second priest.
And when Pope Frandle in the Wind tries to get too hippie about shit, god kills his birds, so yeah, good nominee.
Of course, If this was the Oscars there would be a poorly cobbled together musical number here, but luckily, it’s not, so we’ll just move directly to the next category; “Moment in 2013 That Most Conflicted With the Concept of a Loving God.”
And at first I was gonna go with those big ass typhoons, but they mostly only killed brown people so I went with a story we covered on episode 26 of this program; and it was a story about a congregation in Fresno, California that was convinced that a tree outside their church was weeping holy tears. And even after it was painstakingly explained to them that the “tears” were actually aphid shit, they continued to not only worship them, but DRINK them.
And if there was a god there’s no way he would make it that easy on us.
I’m with Noah on this one, but I’d like to expand the nomination to any of several times that God made people literally eat shit and drink piss. This all happened in 2013 … We’ve got the aphid shit mistaken for magical Jesus sap, we’ve got God letting churches set up shit-water basins to use as “holy water”, we’ve got a guy being prosecuted for telling a bunch of shit-sippers that the crying Jesus statue is just a leak from a nearby public restroom sewage pipe, and we’ve got a Hindu cult drinking virgin cow urine … and still having cancer afterward. And also, I’d like to nominate cancer in general.
The death of paul Walker. The 2nd hour of the wolf of wall street…or all those starving kids…I dont know…
Awesome. Okay, so this next category is a tricky one. I originally wrote it down as “Biggest Asshole”, but despite Heath’s first choice for nominee, we’re not actually basing this on anal circumference.
So “African Altar Boys” doesn’t work.
Right. What we’re looking for here is the person the world could most have done without in 2013. Eli, who would you most like to scrub from the population statistics?
Jenny Mcarthy
So for this one my nominee was obvious; Pat Robertson, but the tricky part was deciding which egregious lapse of humanity to nominate him for. Should it be for the AIDs decoder ring quote? For asking how he can respond to gay people’s posts on Facebook if there’s no “vomit button”? For comparing transgendered people to his castrated horse? For diverting charitable funds to his secret blood diamond mining operation, which I’m not just making up to make him sound more like a GI Joe villain?
And after a long night wrestling with that question, I decided to opt for “none of the above” and just nominate him for not having the decency to go ahead and fucking die.
I’m going with Muslim God on this one. Next to asshole in the dictionary, I think there’s actually a picture of a generic deity lashing a female rape victim with a bull whip. This is the same imaginary guy that told several countries to install Gaydar and prostate exams at airports. The same non-existent asshole that insists women dress like lepers … and sponsors death bounty fatwas on people that don’t like all the stuff I just mentioned. I’d also like to mention all the faithfully rapey Muslim men that make it all possible. And the fundamentalist clerics. And the whole crew over at Hezbollah. And those crazy niggas over at Al Queda. And of course Mr. and Mrs. Kazaam – Allah’s magical mom and dad.
Alright, and our final category is a little bit more on the serious side. It’s also the only one I can imagine anybody being happy about winning and it’s the only one that I’m absolutely certain will appear again in next year’s Penta-Grammys; gentlemen, who would you like to nominate for 2013’s Atheist of the Year.
I’d like to nominate our very own, Noah Lugeons. Not only for his tireless work on what many are calling the greatest atheist podcast of all time. And not only for marrying the talented Lucinda Lugeons, the woman many are calling “The Anti-Coulter”. And not only for his many great appearances on other atheist and skeptical broadcasts. But most importantly, for pointing out the following when I suggested a Mormon necrophilia joke in honor of Paul Walker …
“Well, they do practice posthumous baptism, so they do have experience moistening dead people.”
Well now just to be fair I think I should toss out one of your best quotes on the show. How about that time when you were talking about how awesome I was and you said (quote) “what many are calling the greatest atheist podcast of all time”? That one was probably my favorite.
Okay, so for my nominee here, I was damn tempted to go with Valerie Dodds, the Nebraska porn star that got in trouble for breaking into her old Catholic school and publishing video of her using a crucifix as a dildo, but I don’t know for sure she’s an atheist and this one was supposed to be at least kind of serious, so I’m going with friend of the show and inaugural Farnsworth quoter Hemant Mehta.
Amen!!! Among many other things, nobody aggregates daily religious jack-assery in perfect format for scathing atheist headline researchers like the Friendly Atheist He-Man.
His indefatigable work has not only made atheism more visible, but his charity work has done a lot to give atheism a more friendly face, a more relatable face. And even though it seems like we’re actively working to undermine that every week, I think we can all agree that atheism can’t succeed as a movement if it’s just made up of assholes like me.
And bigger assholes like me … at least in circumference.
Sam Harris.
Alright, so that’s gonna do it for the First Annual Pentagrammy awards, Eli, thanks for dropping by.
And Heath, thanks for fifty great episodes man. Here’s to fifty more. And then a few crappy ones because this shit is getting exhausting.
The 40, the 45, the 50 – Jew-Manji!!!
And with one more quick thanks to everybody who wrote in with their favorite moments from our first forty-nine shows, we’re gonna leave you with a few of the Scathing Atheist’s greatest hits.
Outro:
Before we flip the breakers tonight, I wanted to offer an apology and a quick correction; on the calendar segment in episode 48 I gave dates for a few of the major conferences coming up this year, including the dates for TAM 2014, which actually haven’t been announced yet. Fucked up on the research and accidentally listed the dates for last year’s TAM so sorry for any inconvenience that caused. We’ll get the correct dates to you as soon as they’re announced.
That’s all the blasphemy we have for you this week, but if twice as much us just isn’t enough, be sure to check out my guest appearance on The Imaginary Friends Show with Jake Farr-Wharton; you’ll find me along with the incomparable Martin S. Pribble and the only slightly comparable Thomas from Thomas and the Bible and the brand spanking new “Atheistically Speaking” podcast. You’ll find all of that on episode 166 of Jake’s show, which will, of course, be linked on the shownotes for this episode at Scathing Atheist (dot) com.
http://imaginaryfriendsshow.com/2014/01/27/ifs-166-youre-absolutely-right/
Of course we can’t close this thing out without thanking Heath for all that he’s done and all he continues to do to make this show what it is. I need to thank Lucinda for adding her unique brand of vulgarity and wit to the show. I really need to thank Eli for making time for us this week. And I also want to thank everybody who ever sent in a Farnsworth quote for the show. To those people that didn’t make it into the montage at the beginning of this episode I apologize; the damn thing just got too long when I included everyone.
I also need to offer a true and sincere thanks to everyone listening for making this whole project fun enough to do fifty times in a row. We really appreciate you giving us a half hour of your life every week, and occasionally an hour; and we’re already hard at work trying to earn another half hour next week. Thanks for making the show possible.
But most of all, of course, I need to thank this week’s most notable humans; William, Evan, Alan, Cherie, Chris, Christine, Jeffrey, Tony, Joseph, Justin, Jerry and April. William and Evan, whose mighty fists act as emergency backups for the Large Hadron Collider; Alan and Cherie, who are faster than a speeding Kryptonian; Chris and Christine, whose intellects are so legendary their iPhones ask them questions; Jeffrey and Tony, whose erections have been declared Tsunami safe-zones; Joseph and Justin, who are so attractive they each have an event horizon; and Jerry and April, whose very names probably inspired spontaneous orgasms in at least 10 percent of our listeners just now.
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Here’s Hoping Heaven Has a Leash Law
by Noah Lugeons
For fuck’s sake, there’s something called the Christian Veterinary Mission.
I know this because among the many awesome and generous people who listen to the show is a veterinarian. She was recently at a conference and sent along a little care package full of goodies she’d picked up there for our cats. Along with some new toys, some flea medicine, and a bounty of cool shwag were a few pamphlets from the Christian Veterinary Mission.
The first one shows a little pug with his head cocked in that adorable “curious puppy” way and above him is the burning question “Will I See My Pet In Heaven?” and believe it or not, it gets stupider from there. When you open it up, you find a dodgy answer to that question and boy do they cover their bases. They offer up three contradictory possibilities, inadvertently highlighting the stupidity of asking questions for which no data could possibly be collected, and then they offer an unrelated bible verse.
So why create an entire pamphlet if your ultimate answer to the question you, yourself posed is “Fucked if we know?” It turns out it was all a trick. The rest of the pamphlet takes the “Who gives a shit about Fido, what makes you so sure you’re going to heaven?” tack.
It’s essentially a chick tract in pug’s clothing, but it serves as a perfect reminder that those motherfuckers are everywhere. Think about it; there’s an entire ministry that exists for the sole purpose of evangelizing to veterinarians at conferences. They sponsor veterinary missions where you can go out and medicate goats in third world countries for Jesus. Because who needs the word of god more than a third world villager who’s injuring his goat?
Somewhere out there is an enterprising Christian trying to figure out the best way to proselytize to Norwegian, bipolar semi-professional left-handed bowlers. And when she figures it out, she’ll have financial backing. It’s depressing to see how far-reaching the opponents of reason are, but it’s encouraging to see how desperate they are. After all, there was a time when they could sell Jesus without resorting to cute pugs with cocked heads. Pretty soon they’ll have their own computer animated gecko.
Our Wrongness Proves Us Right
by Noah Lugeons
There was an ancient tablet and it referred to a boat, so I suppose it was inevitable that the douche-shooting Christians would claim it as proof of Noah’s Ark. You probably saw the story by now, but in case you haven’t it goes like this: Ancient Mesopotamian tablet is found and upon translating the cuneiform researchers discovered a portion of a story very similar to the story of Noah’s Ark, with the notable exception that this tablet specifies the boat as being round.
Despite the explicit addendum that this tablet provides absolutely no evidence that such an ark existed, the bulk of the headlines about the piece read the exact opposite. Stories like “Was Noah’s Ark Round?” are cropping up all over the place and the more credulous ass-tards like Bryan Fischer are actually referring to it as “scientific proof”, betraying a lack of understanding of both of the words in those quotes.
And while the newly uncovered tablet says nothing at all about the shape of “Noah’s Ark”, it does prove just how circular the reasoning of Christian fundamentalist are. They’re able to take what amounts to proof that their story is false and hold it up as evidence. A story about their legend that clearly predates their version and demonstrates that they got key details wrong should be an embarrassment. It should be enough to close the topic for good. In fact, we probably should have shut down debate on that topic the first time we found indisputable evidence that the Jews plagiarized this story from the Sumerians.
It reminds me of the eleventh time I saw a headline about some idiot finding a dusty piece of petrified wood on a mountain and claiming he discovered the legendary ark. You would think after two people discovered it, additional discoveries of the ark (taking place on different mountains) would turn into evidence against the historicity of the story, but the motivated reasoning of fundamentalists is easy to underestimate.
Every time I see one of these ridiculous claims make the news cycle I almost feel sorry for the more rational blend of Christianity. They have to realize how stupid this looks to the non-Christian world. It’s as though every time an old house was discovered in the woods it was presented as evidence for the historical Hansel and Gretel. And yet somehow vast swaths of Christianity obliging line up to provide rationalists with ammunition every time the words boat and ancient appear in the same article.
As atheists, we should remember to thank them more often.
Now With 25% More Jesus
by Noah Lugeons
It’s been almost a decade since I lived in the deep south. It hasn’t changed but I’m discovering quickly that I have. I suppose the pro-Jesus stickers on the shop windows and the biblical passages on the newspaper and the Christ-praise on the menu board and the “Christian Owned” notes on the print ads were there the whole time. And I’m sure I noticed them before. But I don’t recall them pissing me off quite so much.
I’m seeing them everywhere now. Every fourth business I walk into makes it damn clear that they’re Christian. It’s a selling point for them: “Get your taxes done here because we love Jesus more than H&R Block!” And it must be effective or so many businesses wouldn’t be doing it. Sure, they lose my business when I see a big “Jesus Loves You” sticker next to the one that tells me that they accept Discover Card, but obviously I’m outweighed by the people who see the sign and say, “I’d rather support a Jesus-loving dry cleaner than a heathen one.”
But perhaps that view is hyper-capitalist. The bakers who sue for the right to refuse the money of gay customers might get some residual business from fellow bigots, but I doubt that’s the motivating factor. They’re doing it because they hate gay people and their bigotry trumps their desire to make money. If I told a business owner that I was going to take my business elsewhere because of the Jesus sign on the door, he or she would probably be happy to hear it. They would probably rather not cater to a godless spawn of the devil anyhow.
The exclusionary nature of faith somehow remains invisible to a vast swath of the faithful. They actually argue that religion (or more specifically their religion) encourages universal fraternity, fellowship, community, inclusivity… and then they build a wall between themselves and non-believers, members of different faiths, gays, women and the scientifically literate.
So far I’ve kept my mouth shut when I see these “Christian owned business” signs, but eventually I’m not going to be able to. I’ll go up to the proprietor and demand proof that he’s more Christian than the other barber. I’ll ask if he would sacrifice his son as a burnt offering to the lord if so commanded. I’ll ask if he would massacre babies in an armed conquest upon the lord’s decree. I’ll ask if he thinks women should be allowed to speak in public. And if he answers in the truly Christian way, I’ll point out that he’s a sociopathic fuck who shouldn’t be allowed to work with scissors.




Live Blogging the Bible: 2 Chronicles
by Noah Lugeons
It’s been a while since I’ve done one of these “Live Blogging the Bible” segments, so for that I apologize. I have to admit that I’m only doing this one because I’m desperately searching for an excuse to do something other than read the damn thing. The blinds are wiped down, the cat pan is changed, the floors are mopped, the dishes are done and I’m running out of excuses.
I can’t possibly express how horribly boring this book is. I’ve been told by sources that I trust (perhaps out of desperation) that this is the low-point in the book; that Chronicles is the most boring it gets and that I can read the rest of the bible with the consolation that at least I’m not reading Chronicles again.
Now, consider what I’m saying here. We’re talking about a book that has managed to have a cumulative 1.8 pages worth of interesting stuff in the last 634. It’s a book known for long, pointless, repetitive genealogies. We spent 16 chapters of Exodus learning the dimensions of a tabernacle. We spent half of Numbers counting Jews. We spent nearly all of Deuteronomy revisiting the dullest parts of the previous four books. And Chronicles is boring compared to that.
How does it achieve this almost preternatural level tedium? To understand that, we have to briefly revisit the books of Samuel and Kings.
Both of these are split into two books in Christian bibles. This was actually born out of necessity, as the histories recounted in them were so long that if they were contained on a single scroll it would be cumbersome. Those two books sketch out a supernatural pseudo-history of the kingdom of Israel that is obsessively concerned with cumbersome details like how many nails were in each plank that held the molten sea outside the temple. And if you wrote either one of those out on a scroll it would be too heavy for the average person to carry.
For four long, excruciating books, we learned about the lineage of Israel’s kings with spasmodic details sprinkled in ranging from the mundane to the miraculous; each schizophrenic biography ending with assurances that there were even more pointless details recorded in the annals of the kings of Judah.
We read one book every three weeks, so for twelve weeks we were reading through this extended and pointless fantasy. 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, 1 Kings and 2 Kings. And when we finally reached the end, we get to 1 and 2 Chronicles, which just retell the same damn story again, with ever more monotonous details. So it’s like reading a phone book and then reading the Reader’s Digest version of that same phone book.
Which brings about the obvious question of why the fuck it’s there to begin with. It adds almost no new information, subtly contradicts the earlier account and makes me want to wash my blinds. Why the hell did nobody ever make the executive decision to cut this one?
Think about the amount of time and effort that went into copying and recopying the bible back in the pre-Xerox days. Monks were hand-copying this damn thing day after day and it never occurred to anyone that Chronicles wasn’t worth saving? For fuck’s sake if you were married to the book count you could have dispatched them with a sentence like “See the four previous books”.
I might be selling the biblical editors short, of course. It’s entirely possible that they knew exactly what they were doing when they kept this book in. Perhaps it’s purpose is to dissuade anyone from reading on. Perhaps it was meant as a firewall to keep readers from completing the book. After all, if you give up halfway through you could be left with the impression that all the answers they were talking about came at the end.