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Episode 32 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright and Lucinda & Noah Lugeons
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Intro:
It’s Thursday, it’s September 26th and we don’t fuck with Hindus enough.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from generally assembled New York, New York this is the Scathing Atheist
In this week’s episode…
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We discover that the Lone Star State was graded on a scale of 5 stars,
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We’ll learn that you can’t say ‘bomb’ on an airplane, ‘fire’ in a theater or ‘atheist’ on a bus.
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And we’ll manage to make abortion jokes and anal sex jokes at the same time.
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe
It doesn’t surprise me at all that most Christians haven’t read the bible. It’s long, it’s repetitive, it’s boring, it’s pointless and it’s stupid. Why would anyone read that fucking thing? But what does surprise me is how few of them even know what it’s about. You couldn’t bother even reading the cliff’s notes, guys?
You constantly hear Christians attributing shit to the bible that isn’t there. A lot of them will tell you that the bible says, “God helps those who help themselves”. But not only does that never appear anywhere in the bible, it’s completely antipodal to the bible’s core message.
They’ll tell you the bible says to “Love the sinner, hate the sin”, but, surprise, surprise, that doesn’t come from the bible either. It comes from St. Augustine’s desperate attempts to dial the bible back a bit.
How about “spare the rod, spoil the child”? Nope. Not in the bible. Don’t get me wrong, the bible certainly endorses the fuck out of beating your children with rods, but somehow god wasn’t able to come up with the pithy pro-child abuse slogan that stuck.
Hell, the other day I was walking by a conversation and heard a guy saying, “Well the bible says, ‘Know Thyself’…” No, buddy, that was the facade at the temple of Apollo you were thinking of. But what the hell, it’s good advice, right? It should be in the bible, right? So why not attribute it to the bible?
The big problem here is that these jackasses have convinced themselves that the bible is some… book or virtues or something. They actually think it’s some collection of ethical parables that provides moral guidance. And who can blame them right? That’s what everybody told them it was. That’s what the assholes who know better told them. It’s not like they’re ever gonna read it and prove them wrong, right?
So instead they bumble around misquoting their own holy book and talking about living their lives by the bible as though that would be desirable… or even legal.
But seriously, the fucking bible!? It’s the most horrible book on earth. To pretend that thing’s moral you have to pick cherries like a recently martyred Muslim. Go open a bible to a random page. Read a random passage. I’m willing to bet the vast majority of my penis that you didn’t find anything moral there. Hell, you’re lucky if you found something morally ambiguous.
You follow the bible do you? Well how many Amalekites have you killed this month? How many bulls have you sacrificed at the altar? How many armed Jewish land conquests have you participated in this year? Because that’s what this fucking book is about. I’m reading the damn thing. You can’t fool me into thinking this is a book about morals. It’s like if I finally got around to reading the Harry Potter books and found out that there weren’t any wizards in them.
Now, a talented preacher can spin this thing so that it sounds good. Of course they can, that’s their job. And that’s fine if you’re in the studio audience, but what about people who are playing the home game? You’re actually handing people a book that explicitly endorses genocide. It plainly justifies indiscriminately murdering people that are different than you, that worship different gods than you, that ascribe to different sexual mores than you, that live in different countries than you, that have different genetalia than you… and you’re telling them it’s the be-all, end-all of morality handed down from the all-knowing forger of the universe. Hard to imagine how that could go wrong.
It’s like replacing the gum in baseball cards with plutonium and saying, “It’s okay, nobody eats the gum.”
A commenter on our Facebook page recently applauded us for our holistic reading of the bible. He said he felt like it should be required reading for atheists. Well, I don’t know if I agree with that, but I’d love it if it was at least required reading for Christians.
I don’t honestly think that being an atheist means you have to read the bible, but I do think that honestly reading the bible means you have to be an atheist.
Headlines
Joining me for headlines tonight is a man who loves both head and lines, Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to make Reuters your crack whore?
Not that I need another crack whore, but sure.
In our lead story tonight, from the “Can you quantify delusional?” file. . . Yes you can. According to a study by LifeWay Research, “[one] third of Americans – and nearly half of evangelical, fundamentalist, or born-again Christians – believe prayer and Bible study alone can overcome serious mental illness.”
Wait a second… they’re deluded into thinking delusions can cure delusions? This is like a Christopher Nolan script that isn’t a horrible cheat rushed to the theater to cap a trilogy.
Granted praying and reading the Bible should quickly turn a person atheist, but there ‘s lots of other ways to cure mental afflictions like Christianity.
I assume you’re referring to crusades.
Here’s some more stupidity by the numbers. The church-funded LifeWay Research group accidentally found and presented the following: More than two thirds of Americans would feel welcome in church . . . if they were mentally ill . . .
Well if they’re gonna write their own punchlines about themselves, then what the fuck are we doing here?!? That’s just selfish.
So two thirds of Americans sit in churches thinking to themselves, “you know what make me fit right in here? Brain damage”.
Right … just as a general strategy point, the church might want to consider NOT sponsoring studies that in any way juxtapose religion and mental institutions. And also probably not advisable to poll your flock of inmates on what pills they should take in the asylum.
One third of Americans believe prayer can cure mental illness: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/21/prayer-heal-mental-illness_n_3963949.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
Our next story takes us to the “Lone IQ Point State”, where Texas creationists are asking, “If humans evolved from less intelligent primates, why are there still Texas creationists?”
Give us miscegenated liberals a couple more decades, and we’ll breed them out.
Can’t wait to watch creationism win a Darwin Award.
Yeah, but between now and then we have to suffer through the oxymoron that is the Texas state Board of Education. They’re already synonymous with gerrymandering the cerebellums of America’s youth in an effort to rewrite biology, cosmology, physics, anthropology and American history to conform to their narrow, misguided worldview so it should come as no surprise that they’re at it again.
Every house in Texas already has a creationist textbook, where kids can read all about what science would eventually get wrong. It’s a bestseller. It’s the best seller ever, literally for Christ’s sake!!!
But what’s the point in having bibles if you don’t have any throats to cram them down? So the alarmingly ubiquitary “anti-reality” wing of the Texas electorate is cloaking their efforts to dismantle scientific literacy in the clever but familiar “analyze and evaluate” guise. Unfortunately for them, Governor Rick Perry doesn’t do “clever” and spilled the beans when he boasted that (quote) “In Texas we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools” during his abbreviated presidential run, which, incidentally, was abbreviated because he thought teaching creationism was brag-worthy.
As long as old white Christian men are legislating the content of Texan education, why not add the widely-held belief in Texas that slavery is a “complicated issue . . . Way I rememmerit, the coloreds was enslavin’ us sometimes too.”
Well, they pretty much already did that! This is only the latest skirmish in a long war. As many of our listeners are aware, the Texas state Board of Education wields inordinate influence over textbook standards throughout the country. Unlike every other state in the union, Texas adopts a K-12 curriculum on a statewide rather than district by district basis, which means the Texas state Board of Education is the only single textbook purchaser tossing around twenty billion dollars at a time. And apparently a dollar sign, a 2 and ten zeroes invariably trumps whatever commitment to educational excellence inspires one to be a textbook publisher.
Texas School Board trying to get more creationism in the school books: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/09/texas_science_textbooks_creationists_try_to_remove_evolution_from_classrooms.html
And in “Malcolm X Machina” news, just when you thought the atheist movement would never find its Black Panthers, enter the radical militant godless group known as the Northeastern Pennsylvania Freethought Society.
Or the N.P. Frees, as they’re known on the street.
Normally they spend their time planting righteous irony bombs under the cars of abortion clinic bombers, but this time the NPFS really crossed the line. They recently proposed an advertisement for buses in Lackawanna County, that would show the unadulterated image of the word ‘atheism’, followed . . . by a period.
In addition to the opprobrious noun, the ad also contained a conspicuous blank space where the crucifix and the benediction should have been.
One deeply offended religious person argued, (quote) “The poster might as well show Dawkins, Hitchens, and Nietzsche forcing Jesus to watch them run the train on his dad.” (end quote)
I smell T-shirt…
In an unrelated coincidence, a new policy was immediately approved by the county transit board, pre-emptively banning any future bus ads containing religious beliefs, including but not limited to belief in the existence of the word atheism. In Pennsylvania, the mere subject of atheism is too controversial already, so they certainly won’t allow entire atheist sentences with verbs and stuff. Atheist podcasts are right out.
We should start a betting pool on which bible belt state will be the first to avoid atheist bus ads by doing away with public transit altogether.
Pennsylvania bus company changes ad policy over lowest-key atheist ad in history: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/18/least-offensive-atheist-ad-ever-leads-to-new-advertising-policy-in-pennsylvania-county/
And in “Chicken Chuckin’” news tonight, human beings with brains and central nervous systems and stuff think they can transfer their asomatous demerits to farm fowl. I’m talking, of course, about the Jewish ritual of Kapparot, in which people appease Jew god in some kind of centrifugal transmission of sin by swinging live chickens above their heads.
Well the chickens aren’t live for the entire process.
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“Listen Shmuel . . . You can’t learn physics without murdering chickens. It’s all right here in the text book. So like I was saying . . . Centripetal force is what your arm exerts on the chicken. Centifugal force is a “faux force” that causes the sin to slide down to its beak.”
Well they better choke their chickens quick while they still can, as radically reasonable Rabbi Adam Frank wants to put an end to this barbaric practice and yes, not wanting to swing chickens to death in the street apparently can qualify a person as radical.
Nothing new here . . . Jews swinging their cock around, and then chopping its head off. I’m not saying the Kaparot chicken thing and circumcision are equally ridiculous, but they’re certainly sitting in the same enormous ballpark with fifty thousand other stupid antiquated religious rituals.
And by stupid, antiquated religious rituals, you mean… religious rituals.
And let’s not forget … the rationale is the chickens go to feed the poor.
But now picture the scene: an orthodox Jewish man swinging a chicken to death over his head as he approaches a homeless Brooklyn man to hand him the carcass.
Might lead to confusion at times . . . that’s all.
“Vhat, it’s a perfectly good chicken.”
Rabbi Frank warns that in addition to being sadistic, obscene and moronic, it also causes the rest of the world to lose respect for Jewish culture, adding, “look at these fucking hats and tell me we’ve got respect we can afford to lose”.
Do they hide their expendable respect in the overgrown sideburns of their eight translucent sons, who all appear to have leukemia? Is that where they hide it? All the respect?
Jews perform the annual chicken-baton sin-absorption ritual: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/17/rabbi-is-embarrassed-by-religious-jews-using-swinging-chickens-as-sin-absorbers/
In ‘assaulted by a salted meat’ news, Wayne Stilwel of Scotland has been sentenced to ten months in jail for stealing my idea about using bacon at airport security and Gitmo, but taking it a little too far.
…or not far enough if you’re me.
The obviously hilarious Edinburgh prankster rendered an entire mosque doubly useless by attaching bacon to the door handles, and throwing bacon into the building. And when I say ‘doubly’ useless, I mean useless in general reality, and also useless to porkophobes that day.
Yeah, they said the sentence was meant to (quote) “…act as a lesson to show people that all religions need to be respected.” I’m sorry, but the fact that these nincompoops are calling out the hazmat team to remove the satanic bacon from their magical house fails to earn them any respect with me… And the fact that UK courts sent a dude to jail for illegal use of pancetta doesn’t make me start respecting Muslims, it just makes me stop respecting the UK courts.
The . . . uh . . . head Muslim guy was not reachable for comment, however this would have been his official statement: (quote) “We routinely feast on American infidels, so we don’t have any interest in the other white meat.”
I’m not saying that what the dude did wasn’t bigoted, but it was hilarious so it doesn’t count. It’s like all the stuff we say on this show.
Yeah if funny doesn’t cancel out racist, we’re out of business.
And in related “eschewing the fat-wa” news, we learn later in the same story that while a bacon attack will get you ten months, death threats against apostates are just fine, because apostates that don’t wear a burqa anymore, are usually asking for it.
Yeah, what the fuck was that? After calling for the death of a Sudanese woman, Liberal Democrat councillor Salah al Bandar was cleared of any wrongdoing, cause you know those Muslims and their fatwas…
Nahla Mahmoud – the fatwa victim – has been advised by police that her best legal recourse would be to stop existing, because it angers Muslims.
Well, she does have a vagina…
Man sentenced to 10 months for vicious bacon attack: http://freethinker.co.uk/2013/09/18/mosque-attacked-with-bacon-scottish-man-receives-a-10-month-jail-sentence-for-offending-muslims/
In left-wing conspiracy news, our teams of gay stoner fetus killers have successfully altered global thermodynamics as planned . . . but Pastor Kevin Swanson of Colorado is onto us.
Drats!
He cites marijuana, abortion, and (quote) “decadent homosexual activity” – I guess dudes are eating dark chocolate mousse while they fuck – Those things are the underlying cause of Colorado’s worst year for fire and floods.
Man… if I’d known there was dark chocolate mousse I might have been gay.
Liberals in his state are indeed conducting a powerful new dark ritual, involving marijuana, gay sex, and fetal sacrifice. Our operatives get high, have extraordinarily decadent butt sex, and then murder the resulting embryo . . . (A butt embryo, no less) And because of a weird loophole in cosmic law (other than butt sex leading to embryos), this magically forces God to flood wealthy conservative enclaves like Colorado Springs and John Galt’s impossible valley.
Yeah… butt sex causes forest fires. I love that this vision of climatology is perfectly acceptable but the idea that CO2 is causing a greenhouse effect is ludicrous .
But despite his stint as a climate change denier, it looks like the ignorant hate theory isn’t so ignorant this time. It’s just a well-informed hate theory. It’s just hate. Which means on this particular day, Swanson will not gain any ground on Jerry Falwell in the prestigious ignorant hate speech standings.
Nobody beats the king… except Pat Robertson.
Denver is the new Sodom: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/kevin-swanson-blames-colorado-floods-decadent-homosexual-activity-marijuana-and-abortion-rig and also… http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/18209-decadent-homosexual-activity-marijuana-and-abortion-caused-colorado-floods-talk-radio-minister-charges-denying-global-warming
And finally tonight, in “Hey, it’s German… You’re lucky nobody’s shitting on anybody” news tonight, a group of German churches have teamed up to offer “erotic” sermons. In an effort to combat the sexually repressive reputation the church was unfairly saddled with after millenia of repressing sex, two Protestant churches in Dresden, Germany have announced a series of sexually charged sermons in the coming months.
And you’re positive nobody’s shitting on anybody? Not even a bronze shower in some shit-laden holy water?
Program organizer Rudolf Renner hopes that the program can help people see that homosexuality isn’t a sin, because it’s in the bible. Because being in the bible makes something okay. So basically they’re conceding that homosexuality is at least as moral as things like slavery, rape, incest, bestiality, genocide, infanticide and animal sacrifice.
Alright, 30 seconds on the clock: Titles for the new Spermin’ German sermons.
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Dong of Solomon
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Ezekiel in the Valley of the Dry Humps… or no, wait… valley of the wet bones.
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The Burden of Blow Job: Carrying the Load
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Moses Parting the Pink C
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Jonah and the Sperm Whale – What? That’s technically a jizz joke.
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Noah’s Arcing Ropes of Jism
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Okay that’s a better jizz joke . . . I’m coming from behind now . . . Titus: Tying up Loose Ends
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The Cautionary Tale: Moses and his burning bush.
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The Roman Bondage Sermon: Nailing Jesus.
German churches to offer “erotic” sermons: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/german-churches-erotic-sermons-sexuality-gay_n_3956958.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
Sexualizing the death of their savior. Now that’s what I call ending on a high note. Heath, thanks as always for joining me.
And when we come back we’ll ask what the fuck all those orthodox jews in the corner are doing.
Calendar
It’s time for the atheist calendar portion of the show. This is the time we set aside once a month to bring you up to speed on all the great atheist, secular and skeptical events going on around the country and around the world.
And damn do we have a full slate in October. We’re gonna start in Charlotte, North Carolina when the “Carolina Secular Conference” is going to be welcoming Margaret Downey, author and activist Katherine Stewart, Shelley Segal, and a lot more. That’s going on over the weekend of October 4th, it’s reasonably priced and should be a blast.
http://www.carolinassecularconference.org/
A week and a coast away we’ve got Sacramento’s 12th annual Freethought Day on October 12th. Huge festival featuring Richard Carrier, Greta Christina, Annie Laurie Gaylor, friend of the show Tom Beasley and a ton of others. One day, great lineup, damn I wish I was gonna be there, hopefully you can go in my stead.
But not all great conferences happen is awesome states. Some of them also happen in Ohio. For example, the 2013 “Sexy Secular” Conference in Akron on the 19th of October. This one has practically every awesome speaker I just mentioned with the addition of Aron Ra and the incomparable Dr. Darrel Ray http://sexysecularconference.com/
And three quickies to round things off. On the weekend of October 26th we’ve got the Kentucky Freethought Convention with Annie Laurie Gaylor, Hemant Mehta, Jamila Bey and more. http://www.kyfreethoughtconvention.com/ A little further south we’ve got “Reason in the Rock” in Little Rock, Arkansas with Dan Barker, Matt Dillahunty, Jerry DeWitt, Zack Kopplin and friends. http://reasonintherock.org/
And finally because I know we’ve got at least a couple of listeners in the Netherlands, the 26th of October is also the start of the Skeptic’s Congress in… a city. Sorry, don’t speak Dutch so I couldn’t figure out anything except the country where it’s taking place and the date. But if you’re interested, you’ll find a link to this event and all the others we’ve discussed on the shownotes for this episode at Scathing Atheist (dot) com.
10/26 Skeptic’s Congress in the Netherlands: http://www.skepsis.nl/congres2013.html
And of course, if you’re involved with a conference that needs a free plug, you’ll find all the contact info on that very same website.
Top Ten
In a religion renowned for pointless and crappy holidays, Sukkot stands out as possibly the single most baffling celebration on the Jewish calendar. This is a holiday celebrated by sitting in booths, shaking palm fronds at god and being generally miserable.
So to help our listeners and ourselves better understand this ancestral absurdity, Noah and I will be answering the top ten most asked questions about Sukkot in a segment we like to call…
“How the Hell is this a Holiday?”
1) What does Sukkot mean?
Sukkot is the plural form of Sukkah.
2) Okay, smart-ass, so what the hell does Sukkah mean?
It means a shitty little temporary hut. So literally translated, the holiday is called, “Shitty Little Huts”.
3) How do Jews celebrate Sukkot?
The same way toll booth operators celebrate Tuesday. They sit in little booths all day. They erect a little shed and then spend time in that shed. Because god. Or something.
And they wave palm fronds. That part is apparently really important, otherwise passersby might forget to reflect on how stupid their religion is.
4) Why the hell would anyone do that?
When you’re chosen by god, for the sweet-ass life of a Jewish person, you don’t ask questions. Since I clearly wasn’t chosen, I looked it up. Following a labor dispute, Jewish people spent 40 years living in makeshift desert dwellings northeast of Egypt. Not sure what makes anyone think that ever stopped after 40 years though.
5) But desert dwellers didn’t live in booths. They lived in tents. So what the fuck?
Well, like all things described in the bible, Sukkot predates the bible. Not sure why people have so much trouble with the “if the bible describes it, it didn’t inspire it” rule, but they do. Despite later attempts to shoehorn Sukkot into the Exodus narrative, it’s widely believed that it originated with farmers sleeping in booths in their fields during the harvest.
6) Do all Jews live in booths during Sukkot?
No. Sukkot was once considered the holiest of all celebrations, but it lost some of it’s luster when humans invented heat and the humane treatment of animals.
And Judaism in general lost some luster when humans invented scientific explanations for stuff.
These days most jews don’t bother with the booths, though some families eat their meals in their rickety hovels and some hardcore Hebrews still sleep in them overnight.
7) So how did they celebrate back when they lived in booths?
They killed a lot of animals. And that’s a lot of animals for templic Jews. Back in the Jews’ animal slaughtering heyday this was the bloodiest of all Hebrew celebrations and all Hebrew celebrations were pretty damn bloody back then.
8) What’s up with the palm fronds?
Fucked if I know.
9) Why do Jewish holidays always suck?
Pretty much every event in Judaism’s history is bloodier than Edward Scissorhands botching an octo-mom abortion, but you’ve gotta celebrate something, right?
10) Can non-Jews celebrate Sukkot?
Yes, but not according to the Torah you have to wait until after the end of the world. Scripture says that after the apocalypse, even the Goyim will celebrate Sukkot and get their very own booths.
And you thought the apocalypse was gonna suck.
Bible Story
“Run get the young ‘uns folks! It’s time for Lucinda Lugeons Bible Stories for kids”
Today we’re gonna open our bibles up and meet one of the few women in the bible important enough to have names, Miriam. In this story we’re going to learn all about why we should love god and the pitiless vengeance that’s in store for us if we don’t.
Once upon a time there was a Cushite named Miriam and she married a nice Jewish boy named Aaron. They lived a happy simple life until one day Aaron’s brother Moses showed up and told her husband that they had to go to Egypt to rescue all the Hebrews.
Miriam and Aaron were skeptical but they did what Moses said because Moses was an unhinged murderer. And because they were loyal to god.
So they packed up all their stuff and grabbed their kids and left with Moses so that god could mercilessly torture Egyptians after rescinding their free will. So after god got finished turning all their water to blood, covering them with festering sores, filling their towns with bugs and frogs and murdering the oldest kid in every family, he lets the pharaoh let the Jews go so that they could all wander miserably through a desert for decades.
And Miriam and Aaron didn’t like the plan at all because wandering around in the wilderness and eating flavorless crap for years and years wasn’t very fun. But they did what they were told because they didn’t want to die. And because they were loyal to god.
Now, because their sons were related to Moses, god liked them more than he liked everyone else, so he decided to make her sons priests. That meant that they didn’t have to do any work and everyone else had to pay for their food and all they had to do was kill animals, slit open their stomachs, take out all their guts, drain their blood, splash it around and set them on fire.
But one day her sons tried to see what god looked like, so he burned all their skin off their bones and killed them. And Miriam and Aaron were very sad, but they didn’t say anything because they didn’t want their flesh burned away. And because they were loyal to god.
So they spent most of their lives wandering in the wilderness, not having a home or a comfortable bed or pets or any of their favorite foods or the ability to decide for themselves what to do. It was so bad that practically all the Jews wished that they were still Egyptian slaves because at least then they weren’t always starving and thirsty.
And then one day Aaron and Miriam complained and said, “hey, maybe wandering in the wilderness until we all die isn’t a very good idea at all.”
Now, this made god very, very angry. So angry that he gave Miriam a horrible disease called leprosy that caused her skin to rot and fall off so that you could see her guts and bones. And Moses and Aaron begged god to take away the horrible disease but he wouldn’t. And because being in horrible pain and having to watch your own flesh rot away isn’t bad enough, god also made all the other Jews shun her so nobody would talk to her or take care of her or bring her food and water for seven days. Because after blindly devoting her life to Moses’ every whim, she was disloyal for a few minutes once.
And nobody lived happily ever after.
The end.
Outro
Before we drop anchor tonight I wanted to give everybody a quick update on the perpetually postponed merch I keep promising. We’re still making a few minor tweaks to the new logo. Hopefully that’ll all be done this weekend so we’ve got our fingers crossed that by episode 33 we’ll have some shwag available for you.
I also wanted to let everybody know that I’m pretty much constantly looking for Farnsworth quotes at the last minute, so if you’ve got a blog, a Facebook page, a podcast or any other atheist outreach vehicle that you want us to plug, let me know. I’d be happy to give you some on-air love in exchange for a brief audio clip of you quoting everybody’s favorite 31st century scientist.
I also wanted to congratulate Cecil from Cognitive Dissonance for being the first team to best me this year in the Fantasy Football League of Sinister Secularists. I want to congratulate him not so much on the win, which he clearly doesn’t deserve, but rather in finding a way to successfully cheat at Fantasy Football in a league that I commission, as my team is far too awesome to be defeated by normal human means. Well played, Cecil.
As always, I can’t close this thing out without thanking Heath for everything he does, which is a lot; I need to thank the lovely Lucinda for gracing us with her dulcet tones tonight, I need to thank Shane from Calgary for providing this week’s Farnsworth quote and while we’re at it, I want to thank all those filthy monkey men we evolved from. Way to naturally select.
But most of all I need to thank this week’s best people, Beth, Russell and Robert. Beth, whose resourcefulness, brilliance and cunning will be recognized by our would-be alien overlord a little too late; Russell who boasts both the strength to arm-wrestle lions and the compassion to occasionally let them win and Robert who has never demolished a building with his gargantuan and mighty penis, only because he’s never needed to.
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Episode 31 Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Lucinda Lugeons and Noah Lugeons
(Note: Transcript may include portions that were edited out due to time constraints)
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Intro
It’s Thursday, it’s September 19th and this sentence is a palindrome…
mordnilap a si ecnetnes siht.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from “Rapture City” New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
On this week’s episode,
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Lucinda will join us in the Holy Babble segment to take the edge off the concubine gang rape jokes,
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Christians will drink poop,
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And we’ll learn that every time a pastor beats you off, a fairy gets its wings.
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe
I’ve got a friend who has one of those jobs where occasionally you have to take phone calls from people who bitch at you for things you have nothing to do with. Oh, and for our younger listeners, phone calls are like real time, voice activated audio-texts.
Anyway, so the other day I ran into him and he was dying to tell me about one such conversation. Some dude had called to complain about some company policy that was set by somebody in another country. So while he’s bitching, my buddy explains that he doesn’t actually set the company’s policies and has no control over them.
To which his animated caller goes all prematurely Godwin and tells him that he’s no different than the guards at them there concentration camps.
Exhibiting a nearly Herculean amount of patience, my friend calmly asks the guy to dial back his rhetoric a bit and then the jerk tosses out a response so indefensibly stupid I had to write a diatribe about it.
He said: “You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a pastor. I’m used to fighting for the weak.”
I don’t want to bog this down with boring details of the policy the guy was complaining about, so I’ll just say that him bitching about it had about as little to do with “fighting for the weak” as being a pastor does, so I can only imagine the befuddled silence and stifled laughter that the assertion actually provoked.
My first thought upon hearing the story was “fight for the weak, eh? So you guys are paying taxes now? Because every time I earn a dollar a chunk of it goes to the weak. Every time I pay my property taxes they go to the weak. How about you? Who pays your tax-free salary again? The weak? Got it.”
But that’s far from being the most ludicrous delusion in that sentence. This person is actually invoking a career in taking advantage of people, deluding people, indoctrinating children, fighting against reality, opposing social progress and believing in fairy tales, and for this he thinks he’s entitled to some level of respect.
I’m not just stupid, I majored in stupid. I have an advanced degree in stupid. I’ve devoted my life to stupid.
Well somehow I’m still not impressed. I’d be more impressed if you had a masters degree in My Little Ponies because… My Little Ponies are actually pretty awesome and bronie or no, I guarantee you’ll find more morality in those cartoons than you’ll find in the bible.
“I’m a pastor…” And for that you deserve some kind of deference? You know, given the fact that we’re gonna be leading off headlines this week with a story about a pastor raping children for the third week in a row I don’t know how the fuck you try to attach that profession with morality. If he said, “You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a pastor, I’m used to sexually abusing the weak”, I’d have simply applauded him for his honesty.
And you know what, maybe this dude does “fight for the weak”. Maybe he’s out there right now with his metaphorical boxing gloves on kicking the shit out of hunger and homelessness at this very moment. But if he is, it ain’t cause he’s a fucking pastor. It’s because he’s a moral person. The CEO for Panera Bread fights for the weak too but I bet he wouldn’t excuse his assholery on the phone by saying, “You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a CEO, I’m used to fighting for the weak.”
The very fact that such a thing as a degree in theology exists is an insult to education. Think about it. We’d be pretty fucked if we woke up tomorrow and all the world’s surgeons were gone. Or all the world’s physicists. Or all the world’s firefighters or teachers or plumbers or carpenters or jizz moppers or truck drivers or pharmacists. And we’d at least be horribly inconvenienced if we woke up tomorrow and there were no podcasters, jugglers, musicians or masked vigilantes.
But what would happen if we lost all the theologists? Where would we get our nothing? If all the world’s pastors were abducted by aliens tomorrow, who would molest our children? Who would fleece our uneducated? Who would terrify our nieces and nephews? Who would hate our fags?
Yeah. You’re a pastor. You wanna impress me? Try getting a real job. Like one where you have to take phone calls from assholes like you.
Headlines
Joining me…
Joining me for headlines tonight is Noah Lugeons because if I talk first then you’re joining me. I mean, we were both already here.
What the hell? Next thing I know you’re gonna try to beat me to the lead story.
In our lead story tonight, a pastor in Iowa claims allegations of sexual abuse against him are just another big misunderstanding. Ex-Pastor Brent Girouex pioneered a procedure he calls a Semen Exorcism, in which he jerks off kids until they stop being gay.
Alright, so the movie version would be called “Redeemin’ the Semen Demon” obviously, but I can’t decide if Michael Bay or Steven Soderbergh would direct. One way or the other, Sharon Stone plays pastor Girouex.
He credits his success to such awful handjob technique, that even women do it better. In particular, poor sense of cock, and also bad calluses – or the “lumber-jacking effect”. Used in a sentence: “I got lumber-jacked by Pastor Brent, and now I prefer vagina.”
I don’t know… I’m finding his excuse a little hard to splatter on my tits.
One self-proclaimed rape victim – or exorcise partner – argued (quote) “But you can see how someone might think they were the victim of a gay pedophile, right?” (end quote) . . .
Isn’t it sad that pastor-rapes-child stories have to have an angle now to be newsworthy? I mean, if it wasn’t for this dingleberry convincing himself that he could clear things up with the “Hey, it isn’t rape if we were praying defense,” this would be a non-story. What? Pastor raped 60 kids over a period of decades? And how’s that news?
Somehow convinced he could smooth things over, the allegedly disgraced gay sexorcist allegedly spoke to detectives, and had words to say. Here are those words. Keep in mind, this an adult, talking to police about his activities with kids, trying NOT to get arrested . . .
(quote) “When they would ejaculate-” Now right there. Already a bad start . . .
(quote)“When they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind,” (end quote) . . .
And the science backs him up on this. Thinking about ejaculating, ejaculating. Those are the only two settings for the teenage male brain.
And in case you’re wondering if his punishment will be as stiff as his altar boys, 60 counts of sexual exploitation will land him in jail for as many as 24 hours. He might leave after lunch, if he doesn’t manually service anyone inappropriately that morning.
Yeah, he was originally sentenced to 17 years, but it was later reduced to probation and treatment when it was pointed out that the kids he molested were cured of their gayness.
New Rationale for Pedophilia: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/gay-issues/ex-pastor-brent-girouex-allegedly-had-sex-boys-help-them-homosexual-urges#
And in convenient…
And in convenient archaeology news, an Israeli team has uncovered a new cache of Jew gold, and some other really old unfabricated stuff, proving conclusively that Judaism actually existed long before 1948. Along with 36 gold coins, and a medallion with a menorah drawing, they found a tablet etching that read “Jewish Jesus was here first”.
Well if nothing else, I suppose this finally settles the “who owns the temple mount” question. Which is a shame because I was still holding out hope that it would ultimately be adjudicated by a winner take all wet-burka contest.
Just when Israel was about to cave, and peacefully concede a bunch of land to Palestine, they find perfectly preserved title deeds, corresponding precisely to all the dibs in the Old Testament, including Holy Water Works and all four railroads.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could talk it out like a Monopoly trade?
“Tell you what, I’ll give you Marvin Gardens and Hotels for Gaza, you give me the Temple Mount and that other green one.”
This all sounds like rock solid proof of cosmic historical ownership. I’m sure they would reconsider if they ever found an Islamic artifact buried in Jerusalem, which they clearly have not. All of a sudden, you might see the stubborn side of Netanyahu, as opposed to his normal, silky smooth, placating diplomacy with neighboring “so-called” countries. Let’s all hope this doesn’t lead to instability in the region.
Ok sarcastically mocking the Jews . . . Check. Are the Christians up to any stupid shit?
Jews find more jew gold: http://www.religionnews.com/2013/09/10/ancient-treasure-trove-uncovered-near-temple-mount/
And in “The… (pause) And in… you gonna…?
No, go ahead.
And in “the Holy Shit joke would be too easy” news tonight, a recent study has discovered that the majority of the world’s holy water contains dangerous amounts of fecal matter. Because when we said the church was feeding you shit, we only thought it was metaphorical.
I love it!!! Christians are honest-to-god shit sippers!!!
The only way this gets worse for them, is getting that awkward email from Jesus, saying he has AIDS, and everyone who’s had contact with his blood should get tested.
Austrian researchers sampled water from 39 different holy springs and church fonts and discovered that the water was so blessed with vitality it was home to some 62 million bacteria per milliliter, including E coli, enterococci and campylobacter, a combination that comes in handy for anyone who needs to projectile defecate through a coffee filter and then die.
Christianity: Drink shit and die . . .
You’d hope the church will finally have to break down and apologize for LITERALLY feeding their shit to the public, then the public shitting it out, wiping it on their hand, dipping it in the church basin, and then ingesting more shit, and then lethally projectile shitting out diarrhea, which is made up of the holy shit they drank.
Dr Alexander Kirschner, a microbiologist from the Medical University of Vienna, recommend that priests act responsibly and put up signs warning people that the holy water has as much shit as the sermon. But loyal Christian sewage garglers point out that their only drinking blessed remnants of fecal matter.
“Holy water number two number two cause of Christians being full of shit.”
Majority of world’s holy water found to contain fecal matter: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/14/most-holy-water-found-to-contain-not-so-holy-shit/
According to a pastor in Houston, all contracts are void if either party has their delicate religious sensibilities offended. Apostle Michael Canty of the Truth Ministries Holiness Church – which sounds like a government building in “1984” – refused to marry a couple because the bride’s dress was too revealing.
According to the article on Friendly Atheist (dot) com, the family assumed the pastor was wearing out a crappy joke when he repeatedly asked where the rest of the dress was. Upon discovering that no, this wasn’t the pre-dress or anything, the pastor demanded that the bride-to-be cover up her breast area and lengthen the dress. In thirty minutes. Or he was taking his balls and going home.
Granted, the so-called wedding dress looks more like a tear-away stripper warm-up uniform . . .
But demanding a last minute, iron-on burqa attachment is asinine.
Yeah… nothing says slutty like “I now take this man to be my lawfully wedded husband.”
All things considered, you probably don’t want to be married by a guy with a visible erection anyway . . . But it is refreshing to see a pastor aroused by an adult female.
“Anyone who objects to this bridal gown should forever hold his piece… or at least turn it to one side and tuck it under his belt so the bulge isn’t as noticeable.”
Priest Can’t Perform Wedding With Visible Erection: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/10/pastor-refuses-to-marry-couple-an-hour-before-ceremony-because-brides-dress-is-too-sexy/
And in “The-Strong-Forearm-of-the-Law” news tonight, it turns out that an Indonesian lawmaker whose career has been defined by a single-minded obsession with pornography is obsessed with pornography
Fifty year old conservative MP Arifinto championed a law that called for prison terms for everything from public kissing to displaying lewd artwork and then managed to get caught surreptitiously watching pornography during a parliamentary debate.
In fairness, it’s important to point out that Arifinto’s not usually known as a master debater at these events, but wanting to display prominent member status on the parliament floor, he must have decided to get his feet wet that day.
Images of the newly-disgraced, newly-unemployed hypocrite drooling over PornHub were captured by a photojournalist and quickly found their way into newspapers throughout the nation. Indonesia, which boasts the world’s largest population of Muslims could not be reached, as the porn-starved nation was busy rubbing one out to the blurred images of whatever Arifinto was looking at.
Anti Porn MP resigns after getting caught watching porn: http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-20052796.html
Well that’s gonna to it for headlines tonight, Heath thanks for joining me tonight.
Well that’s gonna to it for headlines tonight, Noah thanks for joining me tonight.
And when we come back, Lucinda will join us to take some of the sting out of how bad the bible sucks..
Poem
Okay, so I think we can all agree that eventually this whole poem shtick is gonna wear thin if I don’t change it up here and there, so I’d like to now present the book of Judges, in Limericks.
There were a series of jews tasked with judging,
Through god’s incessant fits and begrudging,
So quick, alert CNN
As we learn once again,
That god’s a testy, forgetful curmudgeon
The first judge, Ehum, was left-handed.
The jews angered god so they got reprimanded
By an oppressive, fat lord,
So Ehum took his sword,
And shoved it so deep in the king’s gut it got stranded.
Deborah, the next judge, saw visions,
Upon which the jews made decisions.
Sisera’s armies attack,
So she goes with Barak,
And they use a stake as their chief ammunition.
Then there’s Gideon, whose kind of a dick,
He kills Midianites with a trumpet based trick,
With 300 men he achieves,
Something as hard to believe
As that god-awful Zack Snyder flick.
There’s Abimelech from just south of Ephraim,
Who figured all the jews should obey him,
So he tried to kill all his brothers,
But the youngest recovered,
And then suggested his subjects should slay him.
Then Jephthah who was the son of a whore
Took an oath; to the almighty he swore
That if his campaign didn’t fail
And god let them prevail,
He’d kill the first person that walked out his door.
There once was a fella named Samson,
He was strong, he could fight, he was handsome,
He set fire to some crops,
So they called the Ammonites cops,
And on his head they placed a king’s ransom.
So they demanded he succumb to the law,
But it turned out their plan had a flaw
Despite all their hopes,
He broke through their ropes.
And killed a thousand men with a animal jaw.
Then along came this chick named Delilah,
Who Samson had the urge to defile,
So as long as it took,
There’s good advice in this book:
Don’t your girlfriend be your hair-styler.
Babble
Ah, Judges, the disjointed and chronologically perplexing series of pointless short stories that really make you appreciate the parts of your life you spend not reading them. So joining me to dig through this morass of spasmodic drivel is my lovely wife Lucinda. Lucinda, welcome to the show.
Glad to be here.
And of course, to my left is my right hand man, Heath Enwright. Heath, thanks for not stepping on my intro here.
Once is enough
Clearly Judges ranks high in terms of overall irrelevance, but let’s dive right in anyway, shall we?
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So basically Joshua is dead and god didn’t think to have the divine Rico chart figured out in advance like he did with Moses. So they kill everyone because damn it, that’s what Old Testament Jews do.
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This chapter is all over the place but it has all the staples we’ve come to expect out of the bible. There’s slavery, xenophobia, incest, betrayal but most of all, genocide.
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You know there’s a lot of genocide in a book when by the end they just start listing the tribes that weren’t completely massacred.
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And just when you thought it was a little cruel to cut off the opposing general’s thumbs and big toes, the guy laughs it off, in confirmation of the Jews’ legendary comedic timing . . .
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“You guys are gonna laugh too when I explain . . . I actually did this exact same ‘thumbs and big toes’ thing to seventy kings once, and made them eat my table scraps like dogs . . . So well-played Israelites. I clearly deserve this. You guys are a stitch.”
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And of course, if you aren’t genociding correctly, you’re gonna piss god off so in chapter two he sends an angel to bitch out the Jews for not murdering thoroughly enough.
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Yeah, a half-ass genocide’s never a good move. That’s just normal mass murder. That’s like swimming ninety percent across a river, seeing a few non-Jews onshore, and turning back without murdering them.
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Chapter 3 contains the weirdest assassination we’ve encountered yet. Ehud the left-handed, kills Eglon the fat. He pretends he has a secret message from god, gets the king by himself then kills him with a sword he’d been hiding in his taint. Then he locks the door so everybody will think the king is taking a massive shit while he makes his escape.
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Then there’s the only slightly less odd assassination of Sisera in chapter 4. Here we meet Deborah, who is judging Israel at the moment. She defeats an army with 900 chariots of iron.
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But during the ensuing battle, Sisera escapes on foot and he finds some chick in a tent and he’s all like “Hide me” and she says “sure, no problem” and then as soon as he falls asleep she drives a fucking tent pole through his head.
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Right, Jael: Gentile Vampire Slayer. How do you hammer a post through someone’s temple while they’re sleeping? Did she tap it in really softly to get it started. Just isn’t believable … Women hammer nails about as well as they merge in traffic and earn equal pay.
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And then they relive the head-staking in song.
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I think Deborah is the first woman we meet in the bible that doesn’t get raped, murdered, sold, turned into a leper or forced to mutilate a penis.
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Yeah starting with Judges, it looks like the Bible might start getting a little preachy with all the feminism. I just hope their progressive stance doesn’t take away from the rapey narrative that’s been working nicely so far.
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If it aint broke . . .
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So god gets bored of fucking with them he appears to Gideon and tells him to kill all the Midianites.
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And Gideon is skeptical of course, so he says, “If you’re really god, make this rug wet when I wake up in the morning.” Seems like an odd test of divinity… “Hey god, bet you can’t piss on this rug!” but apparently god passed.
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So Gideon gathers his army to attack the Midianites and god tells him “Any god could kick ass with that big an army. Send all but 300 of them home, otherwise people will think I’m a pussy.”
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So Gideon sends home all the soldiers that don’t lap river water up with their tongue and they kick all the Midianites’ asses with trumpets and irrational fear.
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And then these weird-ass canine-tongued soldiers lift their legs and pee on the fallen enemies. A few of them start licking the blood from open wounds, and it’s a little gross, but still somehow cute and endearing.
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Then in chapter 8 Gideon kills the kings and anyone else that fucks with him, then he takes enough wives to have seventy sons and dies.
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And something of a pattern is emerging here, because as soon as Gideon dies the Jews go right back to worshipping Baal again.
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Seems like the only time the Jews STOP worshipping Baal is when some crazy fucking zealot announces the next genocide mission he heard from real god. So the lesson we’re supposed to learn here is . . . You can spot a false god when they don’t sponsor regular tribal murder sprees.
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Next we get the brief reign of Abimelech the Easily Provoked. He wakes up one day and says, “Mom, wouldn’t it be awesome if I was king?” and then he kills his dad and all his brothers except the youngest one, takes over the promised land, spends a few years killing anybody who insinuates he has a small dick and gets killed by a chick with a millstone.
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And because the only thing worse than death is a vagina, Abimelech is stammering around with his head half crushed trying to find a man who can stab him to death so that people won’t think a woman killed him.
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“Will a man please murder me?”
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And since fuck originality, the Israelites piss off god again and he lets the Philistines make slaves out of them.
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So after a couple decades of slavery the Jews are going, “Okay, sorry about the worshipping Baal, again. We’re sorry… again. So you can go ahead and deliver us… again.” And god’s like “Nope. Fuck off this time.”
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And then you get this very weird story about Jephthah where he has to offer up his daughter because she’s the first person to come out of his house when he gets home. Which apparently means… she has to spend two months on a mountain, never gets to fuck and has to be burned to death for god when she gets home..
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He was clearly expecting his wife to come out first. Or his whore mother.
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Then the men of Ephraim get pissed cause Jephthah killed the Ammonites without them so they tell him they’re gonna burn down his house. So he kills them and anyone with an Ephraim accent. And then Jephthah dies because nobody survives through more than three or four chapters in Judges.
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And then we meet Samson, who was apparently immaculately conceived a la Jesus.
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This is a tough sell to your husband . . . “So you know how I’m barren and you’re impotent . . . Well I talked to this angel, and he said if I can handle his angel cock, he’ll give us a kid who’s a main character in the book.”
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So Samson grows up, finds a Philistine chick he wants to bone so he tells his parents to go get her, because that’s how it worked back then.
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And then Samson gives his friends a riddle, which is bullshit because you needed to know that if you murder a lion bare-handed, you can later eat honey from its rotting, bee-infested carcass. How is that an acceptable prerequisite for a riddle?!? That’s what six-year-olds do when they try to tell their own shitty riddle.
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Yeah, and then he gives his wife to his best man because he doesn’t like her. Or his best man apparently.
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Then he changes his mind,decides he want to bone his wife after all, but when he goes back to get her, her dad says, “too late, dude, she’s shacked up with the best man.”
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So in a rage he ties torches to a bunch of foxes, lights them on fire and sends them running through their fields.
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So they demand Samson, and the jews tie oblige. And then Samson goes all Samson on them, melts the ropes with his anger and then kills a thousand men with the jawbone of a donkey. And don’t forget… this book is infallible.
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So Samson took his bone from the mouth of the ass?
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You never go ass to mouth.
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Just sounds unkosher.
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In chapter 16 we meet the foul temptress we knew was coming. Samson falls for Delilah and she likes it kinky because basically the first words out of her mouth is “how can you be tied up?” And I guess he likes it kinky too, because he keeps telling her new bullshit ways to tie him up.
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And he’s a bright one, too, right? She says, “How can you be captured by your enemy?” and this isn’t a red flag to him. After the fifth time he says some weird random “here’s how to capture me” lie then wakes up to find her trying it, he eventually tells her the truth, which is apparently that Barbasol is his kryptonite.
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So then the Philistines promptly shave him, capture him, gouge out his eyes and make him dance like a monkey. But he dances like a monkey so long that his hair grows back so he brings down the temple. And if he can kill a thousand people with an ass-bone, you can imagine how much ass he can kick with a whole temple.
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Yeah he prays to god for the strength to kill himself and a thousand other people in a building collapse. Turns out the first suicide bomber was Jewish. Who knew? It wasn’t the Buddhists like you were thinking, you racist.
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So when Muslim terrorists pull this shit now, it’s so hackneyed. Samson did it!!!
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17 and 18 suck. Micah, Danites, Shrine, Murder, whatever…
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And then shit gets real. We meet some unnamed coward from the hill country. He’s travelling from Bethlehem with his concubine, some old dude invites him to crash at his place. So far, so good, until all the townfolk show up at the old man’s door demanding that he send his guests out so they can ass-rape him.
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To be fair, in King James, they didn’t specify ass-rape. For all we know, they just wanted to work with the ear, nose, and throat.
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But we already know what to do in this situation. Just offer the crowd your concubine… and maybe your virgin daughter. So they shove the women out of the house so the crowd can rape them to death.
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Right, nothing calms down a mob of gay rapists like some vagina? Maybe they figured she’s a virgin, so it’s pretty tight . . . That’s almost like two assholes on one person. More bang for your shekel … and your schmekel.
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So in the morning this asshole wakes up, opens the door and there’s his concubine lying dead from being gang raped and he says, “get up! We’re leaving.”
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And when he finally realizes she’s dead, he brings her home, chops her into pieces and mails the pieces to different people with a note saying, “Israel really sucks these days. It’s gotten to where you can’t offer your concubine to a bunch of salivating rapists without her getting fucked to death.”
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And it’s gotten to the point where you get disembodied abused-corpse pieces with your mail, too.
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Can a man not block a rape with his whore-shield in this town anymore?!? And speaking of which, can a guy get a decent whore-shield in this town anymore?!? Maybe one that doesn’t DIE on her FIRST biblical rape mob. It’s like having your starting QB take an injury in week 1.
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I thought this was the promised land! Are we not in the promised land?!? Do I really need to dismember my dead sex slave, to teach Israelites how to rally around a good cause again?!?
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So in hopes of putting an end to all the violence, the Israelites gather an army and attack Gibeah. It takes a few tries, but eventually they kill the whole army, murder all the women and children, slaughter all the livestock and burn the city to the ground. So that nobody else would get hurt.
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“There’s lots of crazy tribes going around killing entire towns. We’d be crazy not to start murdering some towns full of these tribes. Hey Gibeah’s a town.”
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And then you get the most high-stakes game of not-it ever. The Jews say “We can’t marry our daughters of to these Benjamite scum, so let’s kill all the non-virgins in Jabesh-Gilead. That should be enough virgins for all these Benjamites.”
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But it’s not, so then they decide to just kidnap a bunch of dancers to round things off.
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I feel bad withholding all the Jew pussy from the Benjamites. We should at least throw them a virgins and sluts party. Half prude, half crude, lots of oil. A righty tighty lefty loosy party. Admittedly stretching the orifice jokes now.
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We forgive you.
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But can I cram one more in there last minute?
I don’t think we have room. That’s gonna have to wrap up the Holy Babble this week. Heath, Lucinda, thanks for not bailing on this insanely boring project yet.
Our next book is Ruth which is short for a pamphlet so we get a bit of a reprieve. We’ll be breaking that one down in Episode 34 so until then fuck this stupid book.
Outro
Before we seal the envelope tonight I need to make a quick correction to next week’s episode. I’m going to misidentify Charles S. Durnam as Charles S. Dunnum, and I just wanted to apologize in advance for that.
I wanted to remind everybody that I took part in a two part panel discussion with Jake Farr-Wharton over at the Imaginary Friends Show along with Martin S Pribble and Twitter’s very own Gamma Atheist. Both episodes are available over at Imaginary Friends Show (dot) com, we had a blast recording and I’d highly recommend them. You also find a link on this week’s shownotes.
I also have a few quick thanks to toss out. Thanks of course to the lovely and talented Lucinda Lugeons for joining us this week. Thanks to the talented but decidedly less lovely Heath Enwright for kicking ass, taking names and then kicking those names’ asses.
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Episode 30 – Partial Transcript
(note: Transcript may contain parts that were edited out of the final episode due to time restraints)
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Intro:
It’s Thursday, it’s September 12th and it’s the 12th anniversary of Heath’s first 9-11 joke.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from sardonic New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
On this week’s episode,
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We’ll be compassionate enough to cut the story with all the childrens’ cancer jokes
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We’ll discover that there are levels of evil Pat Robertson can reach that would still surprise you,
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And Christian homophobes create a Christian version of something that was Christian to begin with.
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe
I was twelve years old and my mom was talking to a couple of friends of hers about where they were when they learned that Kennedy got shot. One of the friends admitted that she couldn’t actually recall where she was and that freaked my mom right the fuck out. How could she not remember that moment?
Now, psychologists will tell you these so-called “flashpoint” memories are just as unreliable as most of our other memories, but I didn’t know that at the time and neither did my mom. It was simply unthinkable in her mind that somebody could have forgotten that moment. And that was simply unthinkable to me. I couldn’t comprehend of an event so potent that you’d be surprised when somebody failed to recall it precisely a quarter of a century later.
And I continued to not comprehend that for another thirteen years.
It’s damn hard to say that there was a silver lining to 9/11. I’ll have enough respect not to rank it on a scale of tragedy, but it was the most horrible example of humanity that I’ve ever had to witness. The emotional reaction that so many of us shared that day can’t be explained rationally. That colossal mix of anger, fear and impotence isn’t something I’d ever like to revisit.
But if there was a phoenix that rose from the ashes that day, it was the new-atheist movement. The four horsemen all cite the 9/11 attacks as the impetus to their vocal opposition to religion. Throughout the 90s we’d all been force fed the immutable dictum of cultural tolerance so faith was off limits. Sure, there were still plenty of atheists and there were still plenty of people bitching about the evils of religion, but after 9/11 those people were suddenly on TV. They were writing best sellers. They were suddenly being listened to. They had been right all along and it took a few airplanes crashing into a few buildings on live television for a lot of people to realize that.
Of course, references to 9/11 have fallen out of favor in the atheist movement. It’s become fashionable to rise above that type of rhetoric. I’ve seen a number of prominent atheists vehemently disavow the popular meme that reminds us that science flies you to the moon while religion flies you into buildings, or the one that shows the twin towers standing stalwart above the words “Imagine no Religion”.
The platitude a la mode would tell us that the number of religious people who have flown airplanes into buildings is sufficiently eclipsed by the number of religious people who haven’t flown airplanes into buildings. It would be too simplistic to say “religion did it”, wouldn’t it? There were far more things contributing to the rationale of the suicide bombers on 9/11 than just the six dozen hotties they were about to deflower. So you can’t blame religion, can you?
And there’s a lot there that I’ll agree with. I’ll agree that the overwhelming majority of believers aren’t suicide bombers. And I’ll agree that it’s more complex than “religion did it”. And I’ll agree that there were other contributing factors. And even granting all that, I’ll still blame the shit out of religion.
Here’s the thing: convincing somebody to blow their self up is trickier than you think. Without divulging any of the details of why I know that, consider the most gullible person you know and ask yourself if you think you could convince them that blowing their self up would earn them a trip to a virgin-laden paradise. Tough, huh? Now imagine you had to do it without using religion.
No one person can do that. It would take indoctrination from birth. It would take total control of what the victim learned, what they read, what they watched. It would take institutions to make somebody believe anything so patently counterintuitive.
And it just so happens that we have institutions that were designed for exactly that purpose. Modern day religious apologists are fond of telling us that the religion of today is nothing like the barbaric faith at it’s roots and that’s true to a certain extent in certain parts of the world at certain times, but that doesn’t change the fact that the vehicle they’re driving was designed to make people do what they were told to do, even, nay especially, when it went against their own best interest.
If you take out the poverty or the nationalism or the charismatic recruiter, you could still get probably round up 19 guys willing to kill in the name of god. But if you take out the god your task becomes damn near impossible.
So call it hyperbolic if you want. I say if there was any lesson we could extract from that tragedy it’s that religious zealotry isn’t something we can afford to tolerate.
Headlines
Joining me for headlines tonight is cleverly introduced Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to participate in pre-headline banter?
Witty response, Noah.
Laughter, fading to witty retort, Heath.
Laughter indeed, Noah. I think I’ll exercise my optional additional witty rebuttal here, at which point you’ll probably add a rejoinde-
Rejoinder ending in half-ass segue.
In our lead story tonight, the Vatican has recalled its ambassador to the Dominican Republic amid allegations of being a naughty, naughty nuncio. Archbishop Josef Wesolowski was yanked off his post for getting his post yanked off and then winding up in the yankee post.
“Pope Franky Cranky About Wesolowski Lanky Crank Yanky Spanky Hanky Panky”
Surprised you didn’t get “skanky” in there. Rumors of the archbishop’s frisky business first arose in the Dominican press a few weeks ago and the ambassador was whisked away before you could say “official investigation”… or at least, before Dominican Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito could say “official investigation”.
We atheist podcasters could be foiled so easily, by clergy just not raping kids. We’d lose a big chunk of material there . . .
So if the intrinsic value of not raping kids isn’t enough, they should consider the strategic value. And as much as it would hurt our stellar ratings, I’d give away all this fame and podcast fortune,
if the church dialed down the rape even just a little.
Sounds fair to me. But instead, in yet another concerted effort to undercut their own “we-really-mean-it-this-time” charade, the Vatican has moved quickly and decisively to protect an Archbishop from prosecution for sex crimes AGAIN. With the ink on his new “get tough on child rapists” legislation still drying, Pope Sweet Frans-vestite winds up in the delicate position of explaining that when he said “get tough” he didn’t mean tough as in “subject to the same minimal legal standards as the rest of the world”.
When a senior official of an institution is caught covering up decades of child rape, there IS a classy way to handle it. And I think Joe Paterno showed us that classy way . . . And in case that was too subtle . . . I’m saying take a cue from Joe Pa and go die quickly.
Wesolowski, who was nomadic even for a child-raping Catholic official, had previously served in Africa, Costa Rica, Japan, Switzerland, India, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Denmark. But I’m sure he only started fucking kids in the DR.
Yeah lots of people don’t develop those kid-rapey instincts until later in life. Much like scotch, cock is an acquired taste. Best to start with ten-year-olds, then maybe move your way up to twelve and fifteen. Twenty-one isn’t worth the extra money.
And I know that officially I’m supposed to call him “alleged child rapist” or whatever, but fuck that and fuck him. The Vatican is going to make damn sure he’s only ever “alleged” child rapist so I’m gonna go ahead and call an unprecedented abrupt removal from a diplomatic post that exactly coincides with the opening of a sex-crimes investigation an admission of guilt and say this dude is a dirty child fucker. And if he doesn’t like it, he can come and get me. He’ll find me in a neutral nation with friendly extradition treaties with the Dominican Republic.
Do you think the court cases against these guys ever get settled by the victims raping them back. Like a “brown eye for a brown eye” type of deal?
Vatican withdraws Dominican ambassador quick before he has to face charges of child sex abuse: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/catholic-church-relieves-its-ambassador-in-dominican-republic-amid-official-investigation/2013/09/04/8dd3e8e0-15c6-11e3-961c-f22d3aaf19ab_story.html
And in “Not all the stories can be as light hearted as that last one” news tonight, a Bangladeshi court has indicted four atheist bloggers on charges of not properly cupping Mohammed’s balls and saying things that hurt Allah’s feelings. Because apparently Allah is a sissy god and can’t smite these dudes on his own.
Are there a lot of Bangladeshi citizens reading atheist blogs and Reddit posts all day, trying to really hash out their true feelings on the origins of the universe? Is that what they do between state-mandated early morning Muslim prayer, and state-mandated later early morning Muslim prayer?
Despite the Vonnegutian nature of arresting people for insulting a fictional character, the (air quote) “assailants” are facing as much as 14 years in prison after at least one of them already faced a brutal assassination attempt.
If you get 14 years for epistemological whistle blowing, what’s the penalty for attempted brutal assassination?
The indictments you were asking for, apparently.
This is like if Edward Snowden found out the CIA was spending millions of tax dollars to track Santa Claus throughout the Arctic . . .
And also chasing Carmen Sandiego from Berlin down to Belize.
I’d like to think we wouldn’t have jail time and water boards on the table in that situation.
Before moving on to any more of the details, I’d just like to say that I make a lot of jokes about how backwards and fucked up the US judicial system is, but all things considered, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of ‘Murica and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under whoever the fuck I’ve gotta say to not spend 14 years in prison, so help us baby-Jesus, Amen.
The accused, whose names I won’t butcher out of respect, have already spent three months in prison and are currently free on bail after pleading not guilty.
Prosecution by the Ministry of Silly Walks would be far less ridiculous.
4 Bangladeshi Bloggers indicted for being atheist bloggers: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bangladesh-court-indicts-4-bloggers-for-allegedly-posting-derogatory-comments-about-islam/2013/09/08/8b05423c-1876-11e3-80ac-96205cacb45a_story.html?
And from the “It turns out there actually were worse things we could’ve done in Rwanda than nothing” file tonight, blathering idiot and perpetual first runner up in the crypt-keeper lookalike competition Pat Robertson is working hard to remind everyone that he’s not just a crazy, ranting, superstitious, senile old bigot; he’s also evil.
First place must have gone to Lisa Robin Kelly from “That 70’s Show”?
Well, …now.
But even slightly pre-mortem. And for those listeners playing in celebrity death pool fantasy leagues, she was 43 years old, so that’s 57 points for the predictably departed meth enthusiast, in standard formats.
And from celebrity death pool back to celebrity death-monger, a documentary titled “Mission Congo” recently premiered at the Toronto film festival and apparently it details how Pat Robertson used the suffering of the Rwandan people to perpetuate a scam almost as reprehensible as the whole Jesus thing.
It’s hard to tell who cured more cholera and dissentary in the refugee camps, because Doctors Without Borders was there at the same time as Pat Robertson’s preachers. That’s lots of doctors and lots of bibles, so . . . who’s to say?
According to filmmakers David Turner and Lara Zizic, it might be fewer bibles than you think. Robertson consistently exaggerated, distorted and misrepresented the extent of his charity’s work in Rwanda and used these lies and deceptions to bring in hundreds of millions of dollars, a very small percent of which actually wound up helping anyone but Pat Robertson.
It’s about now I’d normally compare him to a Bond villain, or a Die Hard villain . . .
But Pat Robertson is SO MUCH WORSE, because he’s actually a real person doing this shit in reality. He raised money from gullible rednecks in the American south, to finance bullshit humanitarian aid to Rwandan refugee camps, but actually diverted the planes to service his secret blood diamond company!!! All he’s missing is a disfiguring scar, and conspicuous red doomsday button that says DO NOT PRESS.
If anybody’s out there investing in “rapture button” technology…
And just to fit the bad guy stereotype perfectly, and get a three week timeshare on Secret Bad Guy Island, his covert African diamond mining company is owned through those “offshore accounts” they always use. I never understood those. Is the money hidden in the ocean? Why does offshore mean we can’t find these banks? Yes it’s offshore, but we all still know where Bermuda is.
Robertson denies these allegations and if you can’t trust the guy who said last week that gay people in San Francisco have secret rings with AIDS needles so they can infect straight people when they shake their fucking hands, congratulations, your brain still works.
Obviously a hoax . . . And if Pat Robertson had ever been to San Francisco, he would know that real gay people in San Francisco don’t shake hands . . . they dick bump.
Yeah but to be fair, the ring idea would work for that, too.
Pat Robertson accused of fraud: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda
And protecting the rights of children to be stupid this week is the Islamic Society of Tampa Bay Area who are fighting for the right of their children to be the most undereducated in the Florida public school system.
Muslims and Christians love to compete … I guess “Dumbest Kids in Florida” is a fitting battle for those two groups. We’re really talking about “Dumbest Adults in Florida” aren’t we? And that’s a competitive category. This is a state that was governed for eight years by a guy named Jeb.
This story revolves around a letter being circulated by said society that twists the shit out of Florida law to make schools think they’re under some obligation to let kids out of school whenever god tells them to. Titled “Religious Observance Early Dismissal Request Form”, the letter misrepresents several laws in an effort to excuse Muslim kids from school at 12:30pm to pray during a special holiday… called Friday.
What are we even talking about? How disruptive could it be for the three Muslim students in all of Florida to leave early on Friday?
And, as the group points out, education obviously isn’t as important as everyone makes it up to be or they couldn’t get away with the grammatically dubious moniker “Islamic Society of Tampa Bay Area”.
This whole thing is suspicious though. Muslim families in Florida?!? There’s no normal Muslim family stubborn enough to settle in Florida. These are obviously deep sleeper cells.
Tampa Islamic group wants kids released early once a week to pray: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/06/islamic-society-of-tampa-bay-area-wants-schools-to-let-muslim-students-leave-class-hours-early-every-week/
And from the “Equal Opportunity Inequality” file tonight, pastor Makeda Pennycooke is begging for forgiveness from Jesus and people who really exist this week after sending out a controversial email that encouraged her congregation to try to look less black.
As in more Barack, less Michelle? Colored but not too colored?
No, Barack is still too black for her. The email in question actually said that the church should work to put it’s best foot forward and make sure that the people greeting parishioners on Sunday morning should only be the best people, by which she meant the white people. And don’t let the caucasian sounding name fool you, pastor Makeda Pennycooke is a sista.
I’d like to read a quote I made up, from the email:
“Our white workers will be at the front, and our workers of color will have a separate, but equally important job in the back of the house, much like a restaurant staff.”
Can’t imagine how that stirred up any trouble.
And while there is something of a silver lining in the realization that a black woman can hate the coloreds as well as any white man, I think we can all agree that it’s important that we continue to allow blacks in North Carolina to greet people outside of churches. Otherwise they’ll have nothing at all to do on election day.
Black Pastor apologized for insisting that only white people should greet parishioners: http://www.christianpost.com/news/im-sorry-pastor-begs-diverse-congregations-forgiveness-for-only-white-people-email-on-sunday-104106/
And in “We’ll just start our own universe and it’ll be way better than yours” news tonight the ongoing attempt to create a fully realized parallel reality for Christian children is one step closer to fruition this week with the announcement of the new queer-hatin’ alternative to the Boy Scouts, Trail Life USA.
The Brokeback Mountaineer issue strikes again.
Joining Christian versions of theme parks, museums, music, science, television, wikipedia, schools and Floridian Courthouses, this latest attempt to inculcate children with a Truman Show like inability to recognize that gays don’t have hooves and bifurcated tails is, of course, a response to the Boy Scouts recent partial backpedaling of it’s long standing official policy of demonizing an innocent segment of society.
Nothing says “The Boy Scouts of America no longer officially hates gays enough” . . . than starting your own all-male tent pitching squad.
Scheduled for official launch on precisely the day that the Boy Scouts start letting the homos in, Trail Life USA promises to be (quote) “stronger, safer and more principled in every way” and co-founder and head redneck John Stemberger went out of his way to use hairy testicled phrases like “masculine outdoor program” when describing the program and how totally heterosexual it will be.
I think as a country, we’re pumping out more than enough homophobic outdoorsmen, without any additional youth outreach programs. There’s an entire homophobic outdoorsmen genre on television. We have an entire swath of this country that is clever enough to see the amazing rhyme potential of hatin’ queers and lovin’ steers, but fails to see the irony of preferring livestock anus to human male anus.
New Alternative to Boy Scouts for queer-hatin’ rednecks: http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-values-based-alternative-to-boy-scouts-launched-104009/
And finally tonight, in felonious coconut news, a delinquent drupe was detained by detectives in the Maldives last week under suspicions that the tropical fruit was possessed by an evil wizard who intended to use the dark coconut arts to influence an upcoming election.
I’m not sure how we could possibly mock religion here, but you were saying “evil coconut wizard” . . . go ahead.
The story begins, as magical coconut stories often do, when a concerned citizen noticed the suspicious brown orb outside a local school that was designated as an upcoming polling station.
Can a brown orb that is – in fact – a coconut, be suspicious in a country that has palm trees and coconuts everywhere?
Well, either it was noteworthy or this weird ass is just taken to closely examining the scattered fruits he comes across One way of the other, he noticed that a Koranic verse was etched into it, meaning it could only be the work of a malicious sorcerer.
Or maybe one of the 100% of citizens that are Muslim, have Korans lying around, and have easy access to brown orbs.
He contacted authorities who inexplicably did not tell him to fuck off and instead investigated the coconut and according to the terminology in every news report we could dig up, the coconut was… arrested.
Textbook profiling of an infidel spy. Brown on the outside, white on the inside.
A local wizard was summoned by the police to determine the exact mystical properties of the suspect and to counteract its evil powers. Because apparently Maldivians are idiots. And before we get a bunch of emails about it, yes, Maldivian is the correct demonym.
And yes, “idiots” meaning “stupid people that believe in voodoo coconut election fraud” . . .
And I can’t believe we didn’t mention this yet, but how does election fraud make any fucking difference in a theocracy?!?
Fraudulent by definition.
Curse-carrying coconut arrested in the Maldives: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/09/06/a-coconut-is-messing-up-this-countrys-elections/
That’s gonna do it for headlines tonight, Heath, thanks again for joining me.
And when we come back, we’ll be doing that bit you were really looking forward to.
Song
For the sake of your survival, you should really read the bible,
It’s the only moral guide you’ll ever need;
Think you found a contradiction? You must suffer some affliction,
Cause there ain’t no fucking fiction there to read.
For the sake of your salvation, believe in Biblical creation,
Learn these Jewish incantations, learn them well.
Why go through life just guessin’, when the bible teaches lessons,
Like the fabrics you can dress in; to bypass hell.
Well… God wrote that he wrote it. Inside that’s clearly noted.
Just ask yourself, why would he lie?
God said that he said it. Don’t you ever forget it.
Can’t be refuted so don’t try.
For the sake of your society, you really should try piety,
It cloaks your improprieties, we swear.
We’ll accept your sinful vices, and my only real advice is,
If you put your life in Christ, you’re in the clear.
Don’t forget the basics, like the fact that god’s a racist,
And it’s okay if you’re a rapist, if you pay.
If you’ve committed genocide, it’s possibly justified,
If god hates the folks who died, it’s all okay.
The most immoral bastard, gets forgiven if he ask for,
A quick favor from his master in a jam.
What’s that? You’re no believer? Then gimme that book and leave, sir.
And if I seem a little eager; it’s cause I am.
After all…
God insists he insists it. I’m not sure how you missed it.
Don’t see how that’s difficult to buy.
God revealed he revealed it, so I figured that sealed it.
Can’t be refuted so don’t try.
God claimed that he claimed it. All this time he’s maintained it.
You keep debatin’, but I don’t know why.
God declared he declares it, and he swore that he swears it,
Can’t be refuted so don’t try.
Feedback
Now it’s time for the part of the show that comes next, listener feedback. This is the part of the show where we hope other people will write funny shit that we’ll tangentially get credit for and act as though we have some kind of expertise or special knowledge that qualifies us to answer questions.
So our first email comes from Milton in New Jersey City and he asks:
When is it okay to tell Christians to go fuck themselves?
Any time after 3pm and all day Sunday
And to clarify, any time is OKAY. I think he means, “When is it BEST to tell Christians to go fuck themselves?”
Right. And I think it’s worth noting that Heath and I have pretty lax personal “Go fuck yourself” thresholds even for New Yorkers so I’m saying it’s okay any time you’re saying to yourself, “I’m done talking to this Christian and I have no interest in eventually having sex with them.”
Our next comment comes from the blog. Ken loves the show but offered a not-exactly-correction to our story in episode 29 about the Salvation Army attending a South African Porn Convention to (quote) “be available”.
Ken points out that the Salvation Army often goes to these types of events to be available for potential victims of sex trafficking and abuse, which, we didn’t mention because we were busy making apartheid dick jokes.
And it’s probably a good thing that we didn’t know about that angle. We clearly would have made sex slave rape jokes that were way worse than mere apartheid dick jokes.
Also, I don’t recommend using our notoriously dick-joke-laden headlines segment as a single source news program.
Our next email comes to us all the way from wherever Brandon is from. And Brandon writes us to ask what he can do about the Jehovah’s Witnesses that keep showing up at his door.
Hm… great question. My first thought on this one requires a wheelbarrow, a holocaust cloak and Andre the Giant but he’s dead so that won’t work.
“Do I want some literature about Jesus? No. But do you want some weed?”
I find that wearing nothing but a necktie when you come to the door works with varying levels of success depending on what you tie it around.
Sometimes I like to lower a basket down from the second floor window, and yell “It puts the propaganda in the basket!!!” Then they get the hose regardless.
Okay, so here’s my serious answer. I say you invite ‘em in, get ‘em a drink and let them give you the whole spiel for their little cult. But the whole time have this episode playing on the stereo in the background. Make sure it’s loud enough that they can hear it the whole time, but not loud enough to drown them out.
Until you reach this part. And then you turn it up really loud so that they know that you’ve been fucking with them the whole time and delaying them from spreading their filthy virus to anyone else while you made them listen to the Bible song. And if they’re still in the room they can hear me tell them to go fuck themselves while they’re gathering up all their Jesus stuff.
And that’s all the feedback you get. If you want more, send us more questions.
You’ll find all the contact info on the contact page at Scathing Atheist (dot) com.
Outro
Before we lock it up for the night I wanted to make a quick correction to last week’s show. If you were looking for the interview I did on the A Matter of Doubt Podcast and were surprised to discover that I was actually ex-Jehovah’s Witness Kenny Wyland, that’s because I fucked up the episode number. I said episode 54, but it was actually episode 56 that you wanted. Not that episode 54 didn’t kick ass or anything, I just wasn’t on it.
http://www.amatterofdoubt.com/podcasts/ep-56-noah-lugeons-the-scathing-atheist/
And if you were looking for the live broadcast I did on CWebb’s Sunday School, well, sorry about that, too. An hour after I published the episode I learned that the time had been pushed back from 5 to 4:30. Sorry if you missed it live; it was a fun panel discussion on the biblical prophecies surrounding the destruction of Damascus. It’s on CWebb’s archives now if you’d like to catch up. You’ll find a link in the shownotes, of course.
http://cwebbssundayschool.com/bonus-the-end-is-near-or-is-it/
And because I’m apparently a total podcast whore, you’ll also be able to catch me on the extremely funny Imaginary Friend Show with Jake Farr-Wharton in the next few days. I believe the episode will be up this weekend and as soon as I know the date, I’ll be posting it on our Facebook page, our blog and our Twitter feed, all of which you should probably follow just in case.
Can’t close the show without thanking Heath for everything he does to make this show have Heath in it. I also need to thank Adam Reakes from the Herd Mentality podcast for providing this week’s embellished Farnsworth quote. He’s a rising star in the podcast community and if you check his show out you’ll find out why. Can’t recommend it enough if you haven’t heard him already. And if you’re presently kicking yourself for that oversight, calm down, you’ll find a link to his show in the show notes for this episode.
http://www.herdmentalitypodcast.com/
I also need to thank Heath’s roommate for our kick ass new logo. We’ll be setting up a Cafe Press site this week if you’re dying to get a customized Scathing Atheist T-Shirt, coffee mug, iPhone cover, whatever. That stuff should be available no later than Sunday so there’s plenty of time to do all your Jesus-Day shopping right there.
And lastly, of course, I need to thank this week’s most shining examples of humanity, Kevin, Richard, Brian, Andrew and Magnus. Kevin, who once defeated the devil himself in arm-wrestling and scrabble at the same time, with the same hand; Richard, a man whose bravery and intelligence redefines redefinition; Brian, who shall rescue humanity in it’s darkest hour atop his mighty steed, Poof the Fabulous Dragon; Andrew whose army of robot spiders and amazon love warriors are the envy of supervillains everywhere; and Magnus whose name is so fucking cool that I don’t have to add any imaginative descriptors to increase the perception of his awesomeness.
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Episode 26 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Lucinda Lugeons and Noah Lugeons
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Intro:
It’s Thursday, It’s August 15th, and there’s no evidence to suggest anything important happened 2,013 years ago.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from begrudgingly heterogenous New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
In this week’s episode:
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A judge in Eastern Tennessee will hand down a verdict in the case of State of Tennessee vs. Whoever the fuck I say you are,
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We’ll learn about the lighter side of Nazi symbolism,
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And we’ll meet a man who blew up the family dog for all the wrong reasons,
But first, the diatribe…
Diatribe:
For some reason, the fact that atheists are smarter than religious people is controversial. The fact that it’s a fact isn’t controversial, of course. That’s been born out by study after study, and regardless of wealth, education, gender and religiosity of the parents, atheists as a group always outscore theists when it comes to the ability to think.
Yes, of course, the smartest Christian is way smarter than the dumbest atheist, but on the average, the nonbeliever is significantly more intelligent than the believer.
And as well established a fact as this is, it’s absurdly polemical. It’s just not polite to talk about. Why, it’s downright rude to point out that people who believe logically incoherent things based on the authority of a guy in a silly hat are dumber than people who don’t. Even if you use big words they’ll know you’re picking on them from the tone of your voice.
Take for example the response to the new meta-analysis from psychologists Miron Zuckerman and Jordan Silberman. You probably saw it on Facebook under the heading “Fucking duh”.
Their study, which was recently published in Personality and Social Psychology Review, looked at decades worth of data from sixty plus well-designed studies and found that, to nobody’s surprise, atheists are still definitely smarter than theists.
And sure, this study has its detractors because religious people are really good at getting angry at reality when it fails to conform to their desires. So sure, a bunch of Christians are yelling “we’re not as stupid as we are!” and a bunch of scientists confirming that they’re wrong. Nothing new to see here. In fact, the only really interesting part of the study was the bit at the end where they try to answer the “why” question.
This is always really tricky for sociologists dealing with this issue. What we have here is a stupid question that demands an intelligent response. Why are atheists smarter than theists? Well, if you define intelligent as the ability to come to correct conclusions when given sufficient information you’re asking why intelligent people are smarter than non-intelligent people. But sociologists aren’t allowed to end their paper with “We conclude that religion is stupid”. So instead they offer up three possibilities to explain the data. And all of them are commendable attempts at not rubbing it in, but none of them stand up to intellectual scrutiny.
The first is that intelligent people are simply less likely to have conformist personalities and are therefore less susceptible to religious indoctrination, leading to lower levels of religiosity later in life. Now I’m sure that this is true and is a contributing factor, but at best it only partially explains the data. Even if you separate out just the people raised without religion, the atheists in the remaining group will still, on the average, be smarter. This fact, which is in their data, completely dismisses possibility number one.
Possibility number two is a little more reasonable. It posits that intelligent people are less likely to accept any belief that isn’t subject to empirical testing or logical reasoning. But as reasonable as this is, it still has no explanatory powers because all they’re saying here is that intelligent people are better at thinking. And yeah, that’s true, but it still doesn’t address the parlor pachiderm.
Which brings us to possibility number three, which is the “gee, shucks” bullshit explanation that relies on four dozen assumptions that are unsupported by their data. They say that perhaps intelligent people are simply less likely to “need” the things religion “provides”. Of course, try as they might, they fail to demonstrate any “benefit” of religion, so this lacks any explanatory powers as well.
It’s worth noting that some of the nonsense in their third possibility is directly contradicted by their own findings, as one of the explanations they try to use is that atheists are generally wealthier and in less need of a supplemental feeling of control. But since the data shows that the trend holds even when you account for wealth, this clearly can’t be the case.
I don’t want to be too hard on the researchers of course. They did the best they could to draw attention to a fact that needs to be given more credence in public discourse.
But if we were being fair, the question “Does an invisible person listen to you when you wish for things?” would be on the IQ test and if you answered yes you shouldn’t be allowed to have an IQ at all, but I know we’re not gonna get that. Still, the premise of this question is pretty simple if you grant that there is a correct answer to the god question. Basically, what we’re saying with this study is “People who got this major question right also tended to get other questions right”. It’s like a study that finds that people who know that capital of Belize are better at geography.
Why are atheists smarter than religious people? Because getting answers correct is the definition of intelligence.
Headlines:
Joining me for headlines tonight is the brains of the operation, Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to be statistically more intelligent than your theistic counterpart?
As an atheist, I walk into a church. There’s a guy nailed to a cross, there’s an 80-year-old likely pedophile giving a speech, and there’s a whole bunch of people hanging on his every word. Who’s the Vegas favorite to be smartest guy in the room?
In our lead story tonight, the Obama administration filed an amicus brief in favor of prayer at public meetings in advance of an upcoming Supreme Court challenge to the unconstitutional practice.
I thought Obama was an atheist . . . Uncle Clarence Thomas Aquinas . . . turncoat bastard.
That was a Wheel of Fortune ‘before and after’, a literary race traitor reference, a religious supreme court justice tie in, and a religion connection, all in one.
Give yourself more credit than that, it was a Wheel of Fortune “before and after and after plus before again.”
Anyway, the brief claims that as long as a prayer isn’t clearly intended to proselytize and doesn’t denigrate a particular faith, it is an entirely reasonable way to open a meeting of elected representatives. After all, as the brief points out, the House and Senate both have chaplains and when have either of those bodies ever fucked anything up?
What the fuck does a Congress chaplain do? Pray for separation of church and state? Pray for themself to be fired for a First Amendment violation?
And ALL wasting of taxpayer-funded time denigrates atheists. Live animal sacrifice has the same statistical success as Christian prayer in causing things to happen. Let’s just skip the prayer, save the goat, and have legislative bodies spend ALL their time preventing progress like they’re fucking supposed to.
This is just the latest attempt to reach around to the religious community, to offer a stroking hand of friendship, to bend over frontwards in hopes of attenuating the Prince of Darkness reputation Obama has among evangelicals.
Have I already made a joke about rosary anal beads?
Yes, but you can never make too many.
They’re acting like the beliefs of Christians are somehow informed by facts and occurrences in the real world.
Right, and despite the impressive string of compromises, concessions, copouts and consolation prizes, the fundies continues to clean their guns and stock up on freeze-dried legumes against the inevitability that the population will be imprisoned and forced to pledge their souls to satan.
Obama administration files amicus brief supporting prayer at government meetings: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/09/obama-administration-backs-legislative-prayer-in-amicus-brief/
And in “nautical nincompoopery” news tonight, sit right back and you’ll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip that started from a tropic port when some homophobic weasel-eating rednecks lost the ability to separate Fox News from reality and decided to endanger the lives of their children in a fruitless and ill-conceived attempt to escape the abortion-loving US in favor of the rapidly sinking Kiribati islands.
Listen, I’m not saying bringing your children to almost die with you on a boat is the same as abortion . . . I’m saying it’s MUCH MUCH WORSE!!!
Abortion is quantifiably good for society.
Whereas negligent almost homicide, even bible-inspired negligent almost homicide, not good for society.
30 year old Sean Gastonguay and his 26 year old wife Hannah cited a number of imaginary reasons they chose to leave ‘Murica, including tax payer funded abortion, state control of churches, mandatory homosexuality and the tiny robots that sneak into their brains when they sleep.
Well they’re bluffing about that last thing, because they can’t know about the brain nanobots. That’s the whole thing with nanobots.
As far as the tax-funded abortion, that sounds weird, because I usually get my abortions done at a private doctor, but I never got any voucher checks.
I go to Jerry Orbach as Jennifer Gray’s dad in Dirty Dancing . . . the first and last likable abortion doctor in a movie.
“Nobody puts baby in the dumpster in the corner…”
Anyway back to the harrowing story of our deficient defectors, figuring that nothing goes better with stupid than more stupid, they opted to escape the country by sea; setting sail across the Pacific Ocean with a 3 year old, a baby and absolutely no knowledge or experience in navigation. Hannah explained that they (quote) “decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us”, which, as it turned out, was floating aimlessly in the Pacific ocean for three months after rough weather crippled their laughably under-equipped vessel.
I guess it’s a no-brainer for atheists, but if they didn’t get rescued in time, who gets eaten first on that boat?
Family sails away from the gay, abortion loving US and gets lost. http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/219129631.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue
And in “Not the preferred nomenclature” news tonight, it turns out there’s a legal limit to how weird a black person’s name can be. Or at least, that’s the opinion of the dishonorable Judge Lu Ann Ballew, who decided to change a 7 month old babies name of her own volition during a custody dispute.
If black people weren’t allowed to give their kid any name they want . . . I’d probably be able to make a racist-sounding analogy right here. But I can’t, so black mothers – and occasionally black fathers – can name their kids whatever they want.
The Eastern Tennessee Judge was hearing a custody case involving a baby named “Messiah” and despite having not been crowned emperor and thus having no legal right to do so, she decided to overrule the birth certificate, explaining that Messiah was a title, not a name and it had only been earned by one person and that person was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Right, because the word messiah comes from Hebrew and appears in the Old Testament, which was that book all about Jesus.
In an effort to explain her actions, Ballew asserted that the name Messiah could cause problems in the largely Christian area. And while I understand the sensitivity to insult a person whose last name kinda rhymes with swallow and has the word ball in it that adjudicates in Cocke County certainly has, that still doesn’t afford her the jurisdiction to rename people’s kids.
Quick story time . . . My atheist friend was being raised Catholic to placate grandparents, and when he got confirmed, he had to choose a saint to have as his confirmation name. So he tried to have “God” as his confirmation name, claiming that Jesus is a saint, and Jesus is God, therefore God is a Saint. To which his priest responded, “Wait, you lost me at therefore” . . .
Tennessee Judge renames baby during custody hearing: http://www.goddiscussion.com/113836/parents-told-by-tn-judge-they-cannot-name-their-baby-messiah/
And in yet another “naked, alien-worshipping lunatics redeeming Nazi regalia” story, the Raelians are in the news for the third time in as many decades this week with a misguided effort to rehabilitate the swastika.
Against all odds, they found something less-defensible than their existing cult beliefs.
And gratuitous mention of terrible attention-grabbing things like swastikas, Nazis, genocide, rape, cancer, abortion, and whatnot . . . That’s no way to get attention. Unless you’re our podcast.
Even I wouldn’t wear an ironic hipster swastika t-shirt.
Boasting a worldwide following nearly equal to the population of Pawtucket City, Rhode Island, the Raelians bill themselves as the world’s largest UFO religion, a statistical advantage cemented by the frequency with which their competitors commit mass suicide.
At this point, if you’re part of some alien cult, and somebody sets up any kind of punch bowl situation, you’ve gotta see that coming.
But if you think about it, they can only claim that because Scientologists are too embarassed to admit what they believe in public.
In the latest installment of their thinly veiled attempt to get people to talk about Raelians, the group flew a swastika laden banner over a popular Long Island beach sporting a web address where people could join them in their fight to reclaim the true meaning of the swastika.
This sounds like the worst Kurt Vonnegut book ever. Some galactically important alien plot that revolved around using swastika shapes for communication, and the Nazis unwittingly fucked up their whole plan, and Kilgore Trout had something to do with it somehow.
Fuckin’ anti-semite tralfamadorians…
Raelians work to take back the Swastika: http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/aug/11/ufo-religion-raelians-reclaim-swastika
And in this week’s installment of CSI: Nazareth, Kenyan Lawyer Dola Indidis is fighting to overturn the conviction of one Jesus H. Christ. Arguing that Jesus clearly didn’t do it, Indidis has filed a case with the International Court of Justice against Pontius Pilate, King Herod and a ham sandwich.
How are Christians mad about this? Didn’t the Romans and the Jews kill Jesus for your sins? Follow the money. Who benefits from Jesus dying? Everyone. We all get to sin for free now. Plus, none of you are supposed to believe Jesus really died! This is all in the script(ure).
Included in his list of defendants are the modern day nations of Italy and Israel. The stuff that Indidis uses in place of logic supposes that Italy incurs guilt for pretty much being Ancient Rome and Israel incurs guilt by being full of Jews.
If they’re found guilty in court, what happens? We crucify a rabbi and a soccer player? Kenya owns Vatican City? Obama takes over as interim Pope?
In one of the greatest dismissals of all time, the International Court of Justice, which exists to hear claims pursued by states rather than individuals working on the behalf of bronze-age superheroes said that (quote) “it is not even theoretically possible for us to consider this case.”
Can’t waste time on religion bullshit, when that princess is still kidnapped, and that Bowser guy is still at large.
Kenyan lawyer works to overturn Jesus’ death sentence: http://www.policymic.com/articles/58445/this-kenyan-lawyer-wants-to-sue-italy-and-israel-for-killing-jesus
And from the “plumps when you cook ‘em” file tonight, police in Stevenson Washington arrested a man last Sunday after he decapitated his dog… with a homemade bomb… because it was possessed by the devil.
Here we are – atheist podcasters – basically reverse-publicists for religion. And they go ahead and start murdering puppies. We don’t even have to try anymore. I don’t think there exists a PR gaff worse, than having your institutional fairy tales lead to puppy murder. I’m gonna say religion and puppy murder one more time.
Feels good doesn’t it? The way we get to link those things because crazy people are almost always deeply religious? Anyway, 45 year old religious puppy murderer Christopher Dillingham was arrested on charges of reckless endangerment and possession of an explosive device last Sunday after strapping a black powder bomb to his labrador retriever and blowing it the fuck up in his backyard at four in the morning.
Bunch of savages. At least when an atheist murders a puppy with an IED, it’s not for an awful reason like religion.
Dillingham explained to police that his ex-girlfriend had given him the dog after imbuing it with evil spirits. When police asked why his windows were broken and a bunch of his shit was strewn around the yard, he explained that many of his utensils were also possessed and that purging his cookware of demonic forces was all part of his rapture preparation strategy.
Crazy people are capable of crazy shit like this, regardless of their feelings about Jesus.
But when sane people start filling crazy people’s heads with shit about impending apocalypses and seven headed dragons rising from the sea, aren’t they at least partially liable for the puppy murder?
I loved that when reporters asked why Dillingham wasn’t facing charges of cruelty to animals the sheriff actually said that such a charge requires proof of the animal suffering and when you blow a dog’s head off, it’s admiring its new collar one second and…
Man blows up family dog because it had devil in it: http://www.christianpost.com/news/man-preparing-for-rapture-blows-up-family-dog-because-it-had-the-devil-in-it-101756/
And finally tonight, in “If that tree wasn’t magic why would it be weeping tears of aphid shit?” news, a group of gullible spunk monkeys in California have managed to convince themselves that a tree outside their church is blessed with holy tears.
They need to bottle that stuff. It only takes 3 god tears to cure a person of homosexuality, and just a dab on the taint restores anal virginity.
Providing yet another example of the cognitive dissonance that religion can inspire, they’ve managed to maintain that belief despite the fact that the “tears” have been identified as a known phenomenon that is not only common in the area, but common on that fucking street!
Yeah it looks like God might have also been crying on my laptop screen and a sock I wore yesterday.
So according to people with knowledge and shit, what we’re actually dealing with is aphid poop. The aphids suck out the tree sap and crap out what arborist Jon Reelhorn describes as a “honey-dew excrement”.
How does this so-called “tree expert” know it’s aphid shit? He’s probably never even read the section of the bible that discusses the fecal form often taken by god’s tears on earth.
Though it wasn’t mentioned in the article, I’m willing to bet the parishioners are now employing the “space-peanut” defense by claiming that it’s a divine honey-dew excrement.
The Holy Shit defense lacks consistency. Not as solid as they think. Hard to digest . . . And a little bit corny, from what I’ve seen.
People pray to “weeping tree”; tears turn out to be bug excrement: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/People-pray-at-tree-outside-St-Johns-Cathedral-in-Fresno-California-say-tree-weeps-Gods-tears
That’ll do it for headlines tonight, Heath, thanks as always for joining me.
Pleasure
And when we come back we’ll be one up on Jesus.
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Bible Story:
“Run get the young ‘uns folks! It’s time for Lucinda Lugeons Bible Stories for kids”
Today we’re gonna open our bibles up to Genesis and learn all about the first people that god ever made, Adam and Eve.
Adam was god’s finest creation, whom god fashioned in his own image. And Eve was an afterthought made from a rib when Adam decided bulls, sheep and hamsters were inadequate companions. And together they lived in the Garden of Eden.
The Garden was a beautiful paradise where the weather was always nice and there was always enough to eat. There were plenty of delicious fruits to eat, but the very most delicious fruit of them all was the only thing in the whole garden that they weren’t allowed to have, because it would give them knowledge.
God could have made the fruit they weren’t allowed to eat taste really bad or he could have just not put it there at all, but he decided to put the only thing they couldn’t have right there where it would be really, really easy for them to get it. But they didn’t because god had told them not to.
But then the devil came to them in the form of serpent and he spoke to Eve. Because, yes, boys and girls, the devil can inhabit snakes and talk to you. And it’s okay to tell kids that because they would probably have nightmares anyway.
God also could have not made devil snakes or been there when he knew that the devil was tempting Eve, but he decided not to because god is mysterious, so instead he allowed Adam and Eve to disobey him, even though he already knew that they would before they did, because god knows everything.
And when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, they realized that they were naked and they were ashamed of it because people should be ashamed of their bodies no matter what and nakedness is evil. And it’s okay to tell kids that because they’d probably already have plenty of suicidal thoughts in their teen years anyway.
So Adam and Eve made clothes out of leaves and they hid when they heard god coming because they didn’t want him to see their naughty bits. So god asked them, “Hey guys, where’s your cock and tits and stuff?”
And Adam told god that he didn’t want god to look at his penis anymore. So god got really mad. And it’s okay to tell kids that because the priests would have probably overpowered them even if they weren’t theologically predisposed to letting authority figures see them naked.
And god said “Did you guys eat the fruit I told you not to eat?”
And Adam said, “It was all Eve’s fault” which meant that god wasn’t the only one who wasn’t gonna see her naughty bits for a while.
So god became so angry that he stole the snake’s legs and made it crawl on it’s belly, which is a punishment even though it’s an equally valid method of locomotion that is better suited to the snake’s ecological niche than legs would be.
And god got so mad at Eve that he made childbirth hurt for all animals forever and ever. And he also kicked them out of the beautiful garden and made them live in a crappier world with hurricanes and earthquakes and disease and stillborn puppies. And he also cursed every human being who would ever live to carry the sin of Eve. Because she ate a fruit god told her not to eat.
And nobody ever lived happily ever after again. Because of a fruit.
The End
Outro:
Before we power down the engines tonight I wanted to apologize to anybody who got the impression last week that we’d changed to an hour long format. It was an hour long special because of the subject and the divisibility by five but we never actually said that during the show so if you were expecting 30 more minutes at this point, I do apologize.
I also wanted to offer another apology to one of the world’s most important bipeds, Evan. I was checking back over some notes and I’m almost certain that I forgot to thank him a couple of weeks ago for his generous donation. I’m really not sure how it happened and how I managed to keep missing it for several weeks, but Evan, thank you, you’re more awesome than almost everybody on earth and I’m really sorry.
And finishing my trifecta of mea culpas is an apology to Mechy from the Autistic Jesus Facebook page who provided last week’s Farnsworth quote and then didn’t get the plug I promised him in return for it. He’s just getting his page started there but if you can’t get enough godlessness on your Facebook wall, you’ll find a link to his page on the shownotes for this episode.
https://www.facebook.com/AutisticJesus
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Episode 24 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright and Noah Lugeons
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And now, the Scathing Atheist:
Intro:
It’s Thursday, it’s August 1st, there’s a new royal baby and he looks delicious…
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from psychotropic New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
In this week’s episode,
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North Carolina preemptively declares their independence from Saudi Arabia,
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We’ll get almost all the way through the headlines segment without making a rape joke,
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And we’ll learn that Alfredo Borodowski is one wascally wabbi.
But first the Diatribe:
Diatribe:
Tom and Cecil over at Cognitive Dissonance invited me on their show last week. We had a blast hanging out and you can hear most of that blast on episode 109 of their show, which you’ll find linked on the shownotes for the episode.
http://dissonancepod.com/?cat=700
But shameless self promotion is only part of the reason I bring it up. See, when I first started doing this podcast, I thought of all the other atheist podcasts as “the competition”. I’d listen to Reasonable Doubts and I’d say “Damn it, those guys are way smarter than us,” or I’d listen to Atheist Experience and say “Damn it, those guys are way more persuasive than us,” and I’d listen to Cognitive Dissonance and get pissed if they said something funnier about the thing I talked about than the thing I said was.
But then I heard something on Cognitive Dissonance that I could hardly find fault with. They said, “Hey, we just heard this podcast called the Scathing Atheist, it’s really funny, you should really check it out.” And that kind of changed my perspective.
I came to realize that these guys aren’t the competition. They’re the community. I realized I should be doing everything I could to help everyone spread this message. It probably would have occurred to me sooner, but like a lot of atheists, I’ve never been part of a community that accepted me. I had no idea what that would even feel like.
In my neopagan, hippy… shrooms and peyote, quasi-religious days I’d been welcomed by plenty of communities that were happy to have me as long as I was willing to play along with their bullshit. When my highschool sweetheart said I couldn’t bang her unless I got saved I experienced a similar thing. But I’ve never been part of a community that would welcome me if I said the shit I actually thought.
I can admit that I envy religious people for that. A religious family moves into a new town and there’s a community waiting to take them in. They’ll give their kids a chance to make new friends, they’ll give mom and dad a chance to meet people their age and all they ask in return is ten per cent of their income and that you keep a straight face when they praise the Jesus ghost.
Which brings me to a topic that’s been big in the atheist blogosphere of late; so-called “atheist” churches. Here we have some much maligned attempts to bring exactly this to the atheist community. You’ve got Jerry DeWitt down in the atheist haven of Louisiana, you’ve got Doug Stanhope’s Sunday Assembly on an international tour and you’ve got dozens of smaller congregations hanging out their shingles all over the world. They’re humanist chapels or secular missions or atheist churches or whatever.
And a lot of atheists hate them. I see where they’re coming from, of course. They argue that these things are a step toward turning atheism into a religion. They’ve seen this whole “yeah, but just sit down in pews and let’s chat about morals” thing before and they didn’t like where it led. They fear that even the non-tenets of non-belief can be perverted if you wrap a church around them.
I know a lot of really smart people disagree with me on this so I’ll grant that there may be objections I’m not aware of, but from what I’ve seen I think the pros far outweigh the cons. What’s more, I can see why a lot of atheists wouldn’t recognize the pros at all. After all, seven months ago I had no idea what it was like to be part of a community.
But we’re not talking about some vague, heartstring and platitude kind of benefits. There are scientifically proven advantages to belonging to a community. Benefits like not dying and not being a miserable old fuck while not dying. In fact, a lot of the research that Christians love to toss around that shows how religious people are happier and live longer can be entirely explained away when you separate out church-goers and non-church attending believers. It turns out those benefits aren’t coming from the pastor, they’re coming from the pews.
Secularists have made plenty of attempts to fill the void. We do our conventions and our skeptics in the pub outings and stuff and nobody has an issue with it. But as soon as you replace the lectern with a pulpit the radars start going off.
I say we’re making a big mistake if we voluntarily give religion a monopoly on getting together to talk about morality and forgiveness and community and family and love. I think we’re buying into their bullshit sanctity if we say that atheists can’t get together on Sunday mornings and sing songs and talk about ethics and get fired up about charity work and the beauty of the world.
Some people reject these things because when they instinctively refuse to believe that there’s anything good about a church, but that belies the data. Others simply think it’ll be easy to abuse. But if the message is one of critical thought and a love for science and wonder, I think we owe it to the world to embrace these places wholeheartedly. Still others reject them under the pedantic argument that atheism is simply a lack of a belief in god, god damn it.
But I also think there are plenty that eschew the idea because they’ve never tasted a welcoming community before and they simply don’t know that it’s awesome.
Headlines:
Joining me for headlines tonight is fellow subtly sarcastic satirist Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to be less grossly offensive than our words indicate?
I am ready, and with that in mind, let’s take a moment to discuss God’s latest mysterious way: The George Zimmerman verdict.
By all means.
So Florida is part of God’s jurisdiction, right?
If you’re in godly Florida, and you get murdered, it’s your own fault, as long as the gunman established his position before you accidentally walked through his hallowed standing grounds.
They talk about it like Zimmerman took a charge in basketball. But even in the NBA, an offensive foul doesn’t award you two shots . . . and definitely not two shots to the chest.
Great job weeding out the easily offended, now on to the news.
In our lead story tonight, North Carolina is set to become the 7th state to piss away taxpayer funded time to pass a law against doing away with the American judicial system in favor of Islamic theocracy.
New York is working on a similar law that would also prohibit Islamic murder, Islamic grand theft auto, and Islamic loitering south of Houston in lower Manhattan. Muslims in north Jersey can walk around and stuff, but they’ll continue to be monitored at all times by the NYPD.
And with them now making up significantly more than a quarter of a percent of North Carolina’s population, North Carolina legislators are fighting back against the inevitable demise of American values by introducing a bill that makes renaming a post-office seem constructive.
Much like invading a Muslim nation, this is pre-emptive anti-Muslim legislation.
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“They was fixin to legislate against us!!!”
This move has prompted criticism from both of North Carolina’s Muslims as well as national watchdog groups that point out that it’s as pointless as enacting a law against basing our justice system on the Code of Hammurabi or Robocop’s directives because no-fucking-body is trying to do that.
And as is often the case with southern lawmakers, we shouldn’t have to explain this, but . . .
Infinite Hamlet monkeys couldn’t create an exhaustive list of all your desired bigoted policies.
Proponents of the bill point out that there are only so many ways that one can legislate one’s bigotry against Muslims and the Burqa bans aren’t working out so well for the Frenchies.
In fairness, it’s not just the burqa . . . they’re banning any clothing that can conceal dynamite vests and pre-martyrdom facial ticks. Muslim rights advocates would probably like to point out that this is de facto segregation, but that would be admitting that Muslims are de facto terrorists.
I want to be part of a religion that requires everyone to wear the power loader robot suit from Aliens.
North Carolina set to become 7th state to pass “Anti-Shariah” bill: http://www.religionnews.com/2013/07/26/nc-muslims-hope-gov-pat-mccrory-vetoes-anti-shariah-bill/
And in this week’s “If God Loved you he wouldn’t have put you in Alabama” report, we have the story of a Baptist minister who was invited to open a meeting of the Alabama Public Service Commission with a prayer. As if opening a meeting about utility company rates with an invocation to a Jewish deity wasn’t bad enough, Minister John Jordan offered up this doozy:
(Soundclip: “We have murdered your children, God, and said it’s okay to have same sex marriage… we have sinned against you and we ask for your forgiveness)
Clearly it takes an Alabaman to see the connection between dollars per kilowatt hour and abortion, but I’m sure if you give Rush Limbaugh 5 minutes and a Vicodin he could explain it.
I save my aborted fetuses . . . to use in my Matrix-style power farm that puts electricity back into the grid. And I use them for cooking, obviously. I use the whole bloody undifferentiated mass. I’m like a Native American when it comes to environmentally sound birth control.
They also make great sea monkeys.
But the reason this is newsworthy shouldn’t be the extreme nature of the prayer. If he opened up the meeting by praying for more butterflies and happiness it would still be a violation of the First Amendment.
And a stupid way to go about getting more butterflies and happiness.
But Commission President and part time My Little Pony aristocrat Twinkle Andress Cavanaugh has responded to media criticisms of the prayer by explaining that it is her divine right as an Alabaman to be an idiot. In response to a HuffPo article, Cavanaugh sent an email explaining that (quote) “without a doubt, our nation needs more prayer, not less.” She then failed to add “So fuck the constitution.”
In Alabama . . . divine right and genetic destiny end up getting muddled. The gene pool down there’s just barely wide enough for a single, cousin-laden white stripe. Ideal for breeding gap-toothed theists named Twinkle. She sounds like part My Little Pony, part stripper. So like a live show in Tijuana called My Little Pony.
Alabama agency prays for forgiveness for abortion and gay marriage: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/alabama-prayer-gay-marriage_n_3651756.html
And in other “Seriously, Alabama is just stupid” news, the FFRF is hard at work trying to forestall the efforts of a misguided Alabama schoolboard to create an “Alabama School Prayer Caravan”.
Like a bunch of Muslim students on camels?
School district officials in Cullman County are planning to travel to all the district schools in August and have a 10-15 minute prayer stop with students at each one. And because the prayer sessions are described as optional, the dim-witted nincompoops behind this move think it’s legal.
Requiring students to do something stupid, is wrong.
Giving students the option to do something stupid, is also wrong.
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“Only door number 3 has a pit of fire.” . . . Not a good excuse.
And eating a baby at your atheist initiation is optional too, but does the group ever really accept you? No.
Superintendent and person who should probably always wear a helmet Billy Coleman explained the legality of this thing in a way so droolingly stupid I almost felt sorry for him. He said that it was legal because it wasn’t voted on by the school-board, which, in his mind, means that the school system isn’t sponsoring it.
No that means he should get fucked two ways. The school board should fire him for conducting illegal activities without their approval, and taxpayers should sue him for wasting real, secular money on those activities. Even after you factor in the ZERO effect of prayer, he’s in the wrong.
Right: The elected head of the school-board declares by fiat that kids will be excused from schools to pray with him, announces it on the school district’s website and then says it’s not a school sponsored event. So what the hell is it then?
Yeah, it’s like he’s saying, “It’s okay because I’m not doing this as the superintendent.” Does he wear a mustache and glasses for all the religious stuff? Is it okay for some random person show up at a school and start screaming about Jesus as long as they’re not affiliated with the school?
That’s certainly how it sounds.
FFRF tries to stop Alabama school prayer caravan: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/07/26/alabama-public-school-district-plans-prayer-caravan-to-bless-schools-for-the-upcoming-year/
And in other news, it’s not okay for some random person to show up at a school and start screaming about Jesus. And while this seems self-evident to people not elected to public office in Alabama, it somehow also eluded a New Hampshire mother who took it upon herself to show up at the school steps each morning to vocally pray for the safety of the children.
I’m sure she pleasantly shared the space with the Ramadan ceremonies and Quran readings being performed by a local Muslim parent.
Then a Jewish mom started handing out pamphlets and now the rural New Hampshire school entrance looks like Times Square subway station.
And of course there’s all the atheist truth ceremonies called classes going on inside the building. So it all balances out. Nothing grossly untenable about the situation.
Concerned mother and part time Edgar Rice Burroughs antagonist Lizarda Urena started her vigil when she heard reports that two bullets had been found in a school toilet. Seeing this as a sign of either forthcoming violence or a really fucked up lunch menu, she took the action that any probably-clinically-disturbed person would and started her public morning prayer regime.
Lizarda Urena . . .
Sounds like one of the Russian chicks James Bond fucks after the chase scene, before the opening credits . . . who is also plotting the murder of Harry Potter.
Does she not understand that the kids bringing weapons to school aren’t all secretly hiding a heart of gold like Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club?!
…he was fucking’ harsh.
So did anyone hand over their concealed weapons and doobage, in response to those non-consensual 7am bible readings that high school kids and New York City commuters love so much?
Recognizing that this was illegal, insane and really embarassing for her poor kids, superintendent Christine Rath banned her from school property. The move was applauded by the FFRF, the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union, the president of the schoolboard and most of the right-minded people aware of the situation.
But that can’t be the end of it . . . Whenever right-minded people make a decision, some asshole zealot lobbyists manage to seek and destroy whatever societal progress may have occurred.
Indeed because Urena’s insanity has some religion in it, some wingnut conservative group had to come out on the side of the crazy lady yelling about Jesus to schoolkids. The “Alliance Defending Freedom” argues that silencing the ranting lunatic trying to evangelize to children entering a school is a violation of her freedom of speech. Of course, the fact that she now simply prays loudly from the gas station across the street kind of diffuses that argument…
Yes she gets freedom of speech. No she doesn’t get a pulpit for that speech, paid for by taxes. And I’m pretty sure there’s a building in every town since the beginning of towns, where it’s appropriate to discuss the Tooth Fairy’s horribly-compiled biography, or other equally useful books.
New Hampshire Mother banned from screaming about Jesus on school steps: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/lizarda-urena-prayer_n_3660904.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
And from the “Rapid ranting Rabbi Racket” file tonight, we bring you the story of Alfredo Borodowski, a Rabbi who was recently arrested for several accounts of allegedly pretending to be a police officer so that he could yell at people for driving slowly in front of him.
Really?!?! A rabbi yelling about bad drivers and their black kettles? I’m pretty sure every Rabbi in New York co-owns the same 1992 minivan that doesn’t go over 25 miles an hour.
Come to think of it, I’ve never seen a convertible with pais blowing in the breeze…
Borodowski’s attorney explains that he has bipolar disorder, and while I readily admit to my ignorance regarding the specifics of bipolar disorder, I’m reasonably confident in saying that waving a plastic badge at people and telling them you’re going to arrest them for not using a turn signal isn’t a typical symptom.
Well I’ve only read 5 chapters of the Old Testament, and I’m already feeling a little Norman Bates coming on. And I’m aware I should read it as fiction. This guy based his life on that fucked up book. Can’t be healthy.
In light of his arrest he was released from his position at the prestigious Temple Emanu-El, but continues to act as the head of the Congregation Sulam Yaakov in Larchmont. The congregation released a statement saying that they stand by their spiritual leader while he recovers from the illness that made him repeatedly impersonate a police officer.
Yeah how will the down-trodden masses of ghetto Jews in Larchmont, New York ever survive, without continuity in their spiritual advisor on where to charitably donate their 2012 Range Rover?
If nothing else, one has to appreciate that in a single news item, Borodowski manages to reinforce the stereotypes of men by driving like an asshole, reinforce the stereotype about people named Alfredo by being a criminal, reinforce the stereotypes of Jews by using the cheapest, plastic, piece-of-shit badge he could find and reinforce the stereotypes of New Yorkers by using his crime spree to cuss at people for cutting him off.
A rabbi posing as a pig can’t be kosher.
Rabbi arrested for multiple counts of impersonating a police officer: http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/new-york-news/larchmont-temple-stands-rabbi-despite-arrest
And finally tonight, a Hawaiian pastor and founder of the Hawaii Cannabis THC Ministry is hoping that the First Amendment will be extended to bong hits for Jesus. Currently enjoying non-consensual anal-sex at one of Hawaii’s lovely federal detention centers, sixty-four year old Roger Christie was indicted in 2010 on charges that include conspiracy to manufacture and distribute marijuana.
This is a weird one . . . because I thought turning 60 implied consent. Above a certain age is statutory consent, right?
No big deal . . . There’s an old slogan on the island, “I’d rather be raped in Hawaii, than loved on the mainland.”
You lived in Hawaii for a while . . . I’m guessing you found that slogan to be true.
Like you said, I lived there for a while.
Christie argues that the THC Ministry is (quote) “a universal religious organization that uses cannabis to exalt consciousness, facilitate harmony and become close to God and nature and each other,” which is certainly no more or less a load of shit than the claims of other religions.
At least weed has an active ingredient that actually exists, and actually improves certain ailments. Religions just have sucrose and faith. I’d rather have the THC Ministry Shaman in the chemotherapy wing, than a medically useless Chaplain. Somehow I doubt Mr. Christie started his organization so he could do not-for-profit work in cancer wards, but he could have.
The church’s holiest day is April 20th and their Sunday service involves a volcano vaporizer, an extra large inhalation bag and some… I forget the other shit, but basically it comes back to the inherent problem with exempting religious people from laws. If I say jerking off on your cat is part of my religion, who are you to say it isn’t?
“And who the fuck are you to infringe upon my religious freedom by installing that jizz fence around your cat’s backyard play area?! How am I supposed to jizz on my neighbor’s cat and get to heaven like it says in this old book?! I know it sounds weird, but before you ask, yes, the book itself is irrefutable, according to itself.”
We’ll keep a close eye on this story, of course, as if Christie is successful, Heath and I will be starting an equally reasonable religion of our own.
Like, perhaps, The First Assembly of Statutory Rape
Our Lady of Mercy Killing
Maybe the Cuniling-regationalists?
Tax Evasion Orthodox
Lot of branches of that denomination already. How about the Whole Damn-Week Adventists?
Crystal Methodist
Hawaiian pot-pastor seeks 1st Amendment protection for getting shit-faced: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/us/marijuana-infused-faith-challenges-the-definition-of-religion.html?ref=religionandbelief&_r=0
Oh shit, that reminds me, I need to be elsewhere for 90 seconds, so that does it for headlines tonight, Heath, thanks for joining me.
Pleasure as always.
And when we come back, we’ll have been worth the wait.
Discussion:
From time to time on this show, we like to set aside a few minutes to discuss some of the common apologetics used in defense of theism. Heath, what sad distortion of logic do you have for us today?
Today we’ll be discussing the moral argument.
I see. Is this the one where theists say that if there was no god, it would be okay to eat babies and fuck puppies and stuff?
There are actually a number of different iterations of this argument and the canine-penetration conundrum is only one of them. While it maintains popularity with laymen, a lack of documented baby eating and puppy-fucking has forced the more savvy apologists to refine the tactic.
I see. And how is it stated in its current form?
The syllogism goes like this:
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Premise one: Without god, morality cannot exist.
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Premise two: Morality exists.
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Conclusion: God exists
So I guess to dig into this argument, we’ll have to start by defining morality. How do apologists typically define morality for the purposes of this tactic?
They don’t.
Well it seems like it’s pretty important to the foundation of the argument.
Which is exactly why they don’t define it.
I don’t follow.
Look, if you define morality either you have to invoke god in your definition, in which case this is a circular argument, or you have to define it without invoking god, in which case you’ve just defeated your own argument.
Well then this one is pretty easy to refute. I mean, how is that any different than saying, “Without god, trees can’t exist; trees exist, therefore god exists”?
It isn’t, and that’s actually one of the strengths of the argument.
How so?
If anyone ever definitively disproves the argument from absolute morals, they can quickly shift gears to the argument from absolute trees. And if that one is defeated they can switch to the argument from absolute snails, and so on.
Okay, but my point is that the logical construction of the argument is flawed. It’s just a case of begging the question. Premise one is the conclusion.
Yeah, the flaw in this argument is that anyone smart enough to know what a syllogism is would also be smart enough to refute it. But this isn’t the only form of the moral argument. The second form is far more common and far more persuasive.
And what form is that?
It’s called the “What about Stalin?” defense.
I see. And how is this one formally stated?
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Premise One: Stalin was an atheist
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Premise Two: Stalin was immoral
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Conclusion: Atheists are immoral.
Well that’s just shit logic on the face of it.
That’s why this one isn’t usually formally stated. It’s more for people who don’t get the syllogism thing to begin with. The more common form of it is:
“If there ain’t no Jesus, how come you don’t just rape women and sheep all the time?”
Well it’s just as absurd when you state it that way.
Let me put this to you another way. When you first became an atheist, how many kittens did set on fire?
None!
(Sarcastically) Oh… yeah… me neither. But seriously, how many?
I’ve never set a kitten on fire!
Oh, Mr. High and Mighty over here. Well, regardless, I think we can both agree that there’s nothing in the atheist bible against setting kittens on fire.
There’s no such thing as the “atheist bible”.
So you admit that there’s no source for morality in atheism at all.
No, there’s no morality inherent in atheism, but there’s no morality inherent in Chinese food either. But that doesn’t mean that people who eat Chinese food are immoral. There are plenty of sources for morality other than Holy Books. What about democratic legal codes, societal imperatives, basic altruism, the minimization of harm? These are all examples of sources of morality that don’t rely on divine revelation.
Yes, but what about Stalin?
What about Stalin?
Stalin was an atheist. He was immoral.
Yeah, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
And Kim Jong Il. He was an immoral atheist. And House. That dude’s a total prick.
But citing examples of immoral atheists doesn’t do anything to prop up the argument. I can list really moral atheists too. Or immoral theists. Or I could just cite the statistics on ethical national barometers in religious versus non-religious nations.
Yes, but Hitler.
What?
Hitler. Guy that killed all of the Jews?
Yeah, I know who he was, but what does he have to do with anything?
He was immoral too.
Hitler wasn’t even an atheist. He was a Catholic. But that’s beside the point…
C’mon, do you really think a Catholic would kill all those Jews?
A Catholic did kill all those Jews… with tacit approval from the Vatican. And inspiration from Martin Luther for fuck’s sake.
So he must have been an atheist.
He wasn’t, but it wouldn’t matter if he was. Hitler was also Austrian and he was also a painter. So does Hitler being evil make Austrians and painters evil as well?
Of course not. God makes Austrians and painters evil.
No, immoral acts make them evil… if they’re evil, I mean.
Right, but Pol Pot.
Right, Pol Pot was immoral and he was an atheist. But is still doesn’t bolster the shaky premise of this argument.
So you’re saying you agree with Stalin and Pol Pot?
You know what, sure. About the non-existence of god, I agree with Stalin and Pol Pot. I also probably agree with them that… you know, the sun rises in the east and having a penis is awesome.
Interesting point… but Mussolini.
Alright, I guess this could go on forever so how do we counter the moral argument?
Fucked if I know. As far as I can tell we’re screwed until somebody finds a more consistent and inerrant guide to morality than the bible.
Outro:
Before we tie things off for the night, I wanted to finally getting around to answering an email we got a few weeks ago after doing a story about Christian evangelists that target strip clubs, brothels and porn conventions.
Ann wrote to us to express a very polite concern she had with many of the porn and prostitution jokes we often do on our show. And before you label her a prude, I should express that her concern wasn’t the frequency of such jokes, but the nature of some of them. Heath and I obviously joke about some things far more objectionable than prostitution and porn, but when we do, we’re careful to ensure that the butt of the joke is never the victim. We make more rape jokes than are psychologically healthy, but the rapist is always the target of our humor.
And while I think a reasonable argument can be made that prostitution and pornography don’t necessarily victimize the men and women involved, I don’t think you can make a reasonable argument that the current form of prostitution and pornography don’t often victimize the participants.
Anyway, I wanted to apologize for the oversight and I wanted to thank Ann for reminding us that as our audience grows so too do our obligations to that audience. And while we’ll still be making plenty of porn and hooker jokes in the future, we will be working hard to tell only the best porn and hooker jokes.
And of course, we also need to take a minute to gaze in awe upon the blinding benevolence of this weeks best people, Steven, Zachary, Jeffrey and, if you can believe this, April again. Steven, whose deadly agility against swarms of ninjas is matched only by his seductive agility on the dance floor; Zachary, whose lightning reflexes and chiseled features are the envy of professional athletes, professional models and amateur podcasters everywhere; Jeffrey, whose wit and wisdom are so unrivaled that the IRS has deemed them taxable assets and April, who has donated to the show, like, 83 times now or something and is thus deserving of more words of praise than I have in my vocabulary and my thesaurus combined.
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Episode 23 – Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Lucinda Lugeons and Noah Lugeons
(Transcript may contain material edited out of the final version)
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And now, the Scathing Atheist…
Intro:
It’s Thursday, it’s July 25th and it’s not too late to wave some popcorn under a Muslim’s nose tomorrow afternoon.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons and from statistically more rational New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
In this week’s episode;
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Former celebrity Kirk Cameron is told by Facebook to cease and desist the fuck up,
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A new law in Louisiana won’t not make it not not legal to obey the law.
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And we’ll make fun of Fred Phelps’ dead mother,
But first, the diatribe.
Diatribe:
Boy, this new pope sure is awesome. He’s a reformer. He’s a radical. He’s a beacon of light illuminating the dimmest hour of Catholic decline. He’s beloved by all, Catholic and otherwise. He’s approachable, off-the-cuff and lovable. He’s the antithesis to Pope Palpatine the second. He’s a game-changer.
Except for all the places that matter.
The major-media outlets are suffering from a bit or “Protestant Guilt” after spending two decades covering stories about Catholics butt-raping children so I guess I understand why they’ve been so quick to cram into the papal-fellatio waiting room, but in their eagerness to finally have something good to say about the Vatican, I think they’ve forgotten that balanced doesn’t equal honest.
So let me make something clear about Pope Franks-but-no-Franks: He hasn’t done a fucking thing.
Despite the publicity juggernaut to the contrary, carrying your own bags and posing for a photo-op in a jalopy doesn’t count as reform. Living in a palatial guest house instead of a palatial palace doesn’t count as reform. Washing feet and ad libbing shit about atheists going to heaven doesn’t count as reform. To reform something, you have to actually do something.
Let’s face it, during the reign of Pope Bene-dickhead we had some pretty legitimate complaints about the papacy. And none of them were, “That old fucker won’t even carry his own luggage!”
So where does Pope Frankly-my-dear-I-don’t-give-a-damn stand on the big issues?
He’s against condoms. He fully endorses the genocidal opposition to contraception that exacerbates the AIDS epidemic in Africa. It would take nothing but waving his magic pope wand to halt these detrimental policies, and yet he’s done nothing.
He’s against ordaining women. Not only has he made no moves on that, but he also left a long line of politically motivated misogyny behind him on the way to the Vatican… not to mention a few allegations of war crimes.
He’s staunchly homophobic. He’s actually described the move in Argentina to legalize gay marriage as “a war against god” and shows no signs whatsoever that he’ll be moving the Vatican into the twenty-first century with regard to gays.
He staunchly supports celibacy for priests despite the fact that it isn’t biblical (and actually directly contradicts the biblical prescription for priests and their sex lives) and could give a damn less if it’s harmful psychologically.
Come meet the new pope, same as the old pope. In all the ways that matter, he hasn’t done a fucking thing. And yet everyday I hop onto a religious news site and read about all these great “symbolic” reforms he’s making. Symbolic actions are great unless they’re coming from somebody who has the authority to make real change.
But the media is so desperate to paint him as a reformer that I’ve seen him extolled for coming out “strongly against the financial misdealings of the Vatican bank.” Like there was some other pope who was all about publicly endorsing money laundering for the mafia?
Look, maybe the media is right and I’m wrong. Maybe Pope Franky-Doodle-Dandy really is planning on reforming the Vatican from the ground up. But he hasn’t started yet. And when you take over as the head of the most corrupt institution on the planet you don’t get any extra credit for dressing less flamboyantly than the last guy.
Headlines:
Joining me for headlines tonight is my fellow expositor Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to exposit?
I’m all about exposition. Whenever I need extra cash, I make an exposit at the sperm bank. That’s what that means, right?
In the interest of getting the sperm jokes started early, we’ll say yes.
Sperm gags are all about coming early.
The Spanish Inquisition of sexual events.
In our lead story tonight the state of California is considering a bill that would help child abuse victims receive compensation if they were otherwise unable to file suit because of time or age restrictions. Obviously, this bill enjoys wide, bipartisan support because who on earth would actually oppose allowing victims of child sexual abuse to pursue long overdue justice?
Catholics.
That’s right. The Los Angeles archdiocese made the mistake of taking the high road on justice for sex abuse victims back in 2002 and the bill California passed back then almost wiped them out. So this time they’re fighting against justice for abused children with everything they’ve got.
So a whole bunch of those tax-deductible donations to churches, are going to pay for pedophile advocacy experts. There’s a positive social externality in there somewhere.
Yeah, one has to imagine the lobbyists are all hoping not to get the “maintain strict statutes of limitations on child rape” assignment.
They’re trying to argue that “A certain day needs to exist, on which these people wake up, and they’re no longer a rape victim.”
Usually it’s the other way around in Christianity … Fall asleep a virgin, and wake up a rape victim. That’s how it went for Jesus’s mom, and lots of slutty altar boys, I imagine.
The archdiocese recognizes the public relations tightrope one must walk when vociferously siding with pedophilic rapists, so they’re hard at work trying to sell this bill as a prejudicial witch-hunt against Catholics.
If the tightrope represents the right way to side with pedophilic rapists, then I wouldn’t say the church is walking it. I don’t think they can see the tightrope from where they’re standing. I’m not impressed by “The lord rapes kids in mysterious ways.”
Well, they point out that the bill would not allow victims to sue public schools for abuse that had passed the statute of limitations, so clearly they’re just going after Catholic child rapists. After all, allowing victims to sue for tax dollars is directly analogous to allowing them to sue a private institution that is still largely governed by people who were and are actively involved in covering up the details of child rape and torture, isn’t it?
I don’t think the public school system could have pulled the same moves to cover for pedophile teachers . . .
“What?!? We sent the rapiest ones to teach Nazi grandchildren in Argentina.”
Catholic Church fighting child abuse bill in California: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/17/catholic-church-private-schools-lobby-against-california-childhood-sex-abuse/
On now to the ever-burning question “Could we have freed the slaves but not kept the South?”, we turn to Louisiana where Democratic state senator Mary Landrieu has introduced a piece of legislation called the “Freedom to Pray” bill, which would, in her words, “protect American’s right to pray.”
Was that part of the larger, “Right to Being and Nothingness Bill”?
This might mean the end of the atheist psychic nanobot thought police.
And as we long ago learned, making legal shit legal is a favored strategy for sneaking bullshit religious laws through the legislature and this one is no different. If you dig even a little, you’ll find that the intent of the bill is clearly to allow state and federal funds to go to programs that are explicitly religious in nature.
Does the legislation explain exactly how The Bill of Rights no longer applies in Louisiana? And if the church needs more money, they should just pray for it, hold their breath, and die.
Amen. Anyway, this all comes as a response to a recent hullabaloo about a quasi-military religious indoctrination camp being run by a Louisiana Sheriff’s department. The program was denied $15,000 in federal funding due to the ubiquity of prayer within the program along with pledges to “attend the church of my faith” and to “Love god”.
Bible Camp for redneck cops makes me nervous. Like ‘venerated obsoivances and rituals’, ‘Waco, Texas’ nervous.
Well hopefully you’ll be reassured by the evangelists running the program, who insist that the prayers are voluntary and a whole room full of people praying around you isn’t coercive at all. And that’s enough for senator Landrieu, who would clearly have no problem with a state run, federally funded program encouraging her children to bow to Mecca, as long as it was voluntary.
In theory, this would create an awkward, alienating situation for any Jewish or Muslim officers. But Jews and Muslims certainly don’t get hired by police departments – or sold property – in Louisiana, so in practice, it’s a moot point.
Louisiana Senator proposes bill to protect religious groups that receive federal funding: https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/prayer-posturing-la-officials-seek-taxpayer-support-for-religious-program
And in satanic lesbian news tonight, Fred Phelps’ dead mother is now gay thanks to the efforts of the New York based Satanic Temple. Person whose name left him no career options except arch-villain or spokesman for the Satanic Temple Lucien Greaves explained that the action was meant to convey (quote) “a message of love in the face of hate”.
Like a money shot all over hate’s face. Chicken fried hate smothered in white country gravy. Phelps needs a Chia Pet, so people everywhere can put sticky seed all over his face.
6 sperm jokes already. He’s going for the record!
Anyway, the ceremony, which the Satanic Temple refers to as a “Pink Mass” was performed by Greaves and two same-sex couples and took place at the Mississippi grave of Phelps’ mother. The goal of the ritual was to turn the mother of the notoriously sodomy-obsessed preacher’s spirit into a posthumous lesbian.
This strategy makes sense, given the way shit works in the bible. This can even get her expelled from heaven. Jesus stops having pre-emptively died for your sins if you posthumously witness gay sex near your gravesite. Plus, that bitch natured and nurtured her bile duct of a son.
The ceremony was, of course, tongue in cheek, as in some dude’s tongue in some other dude’s cheek.
Jelly? Syrup? Rusty Trombone? What does a party like that cost? I guess if I have to ask, I probably can’t afford it.
Apparently the ritual called for two prolonged homosexual makeout session over the headstone along with some divine cock-stroking. Phelps’ mother, who died as the result of god’s retribution over our butt-sex loving culture, could not be reached for comment.
Satanic church holds same-sex ceremony at Fred Phelps’ mom’s grave: http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/28311/The-Satanic-Temple-Performs-Same-Sex-Ceremony-At-Westboro-Baptist-Church-Leaders-Family-Gravesite
And in “Apparently there’s a snooze button on your 15 minutes of fame” news tonight, Kirk Cameron, who you’ll remember from trying to remember where you remember him from, is in a tizzy because people can tell the difference between him being earnest and spam.
Who could forget about Mike Seaver and his best friend Boner? Classic member of the shitty 80’s sitcom canon. And let’s not ignore Cameron’s illustrious film career, including “The Growing Pains Movie” in 2000, and of course the Godfather 2 of sitcom movie sequels, “Growing Pains: Return of the Seavers” in 2004.
Cameron, who has used his post-C-list celebrity decline to promote creationism, has a new movie coming out and he’s been having a bit of trouble promoting it on social media. It began when Facebook blocked promos for his movie and called them “abusive”, “unsafe” and “spammy”.
It’s good to hear that Facebook is using algorithms that can sniff out abusive, unsafe, spammy shit like religion. Software that can process content, and then quantify its level of malignant wrongness – love it. Or maybe they just noticed Kirk Cameron’s name on it.
Facebook later apologized when almost dozens of Cameron’s fans made a fuss but just as Facebook unblocked him, YouTube gave him the boot calling promos for his film, “spam”, “scam” and “deceptive”. This block was later lifted as well, though promos for his film are still “spam”, “scam” and “deceptive”.
Spoiler alert: God did it. He was the rapist in the end.
Which end?
I was impressed by Cameron’s unflinching optimism when he boldly used the plural form of theater in describing the film’s upcoming release.
Further proof that you were never really a celebrity if people could say of your solitary known vehicle, “The star of that show was really Alan Thicke”
Kirk Cameron’s movie blocked on Facebook: http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/facebook-blocks-kirk-camerons-new-movie.html & http://www.examiner.com/article/facebook-apologizes-to-kirk-cameron-for-blocking-new-movie
And in this week’s papal back-walking report, the Vatican is offering time off from purgatory for his Twitter followers, unless you ask Catholic pundits, in which case they definitely aren’t, because that would be stupid.
And if you retweet a papal bull in the next 10 minutes, the Pope will personally murder you, and send you directly to the good part of heaven with the comfy chairs for all the rape victims.
The latest in an illustrious Catholic tradition of trading imaginary favors for real ones, this story reminds us all that Catholics still kind of endorse the antiquated notion that you can earn perdition vouchers for climbing certain stairs and attending certain parties in Rio.
Also, if you duck for 3 seconds while standing on a white platform, you can fall into a 3rd dimension, and get a whistle that takes you to a warp zone that bypasses purgatory altogether.
The story begins when the Apostolic Penitentiary issued a document offering a plenary indulgence for those who attend the upcoming World Youth Day in Brazil. And because the Apostolic Penitentiary is known for being cutting edge and hip, they extended the indulgence to those who follow the event on Twitter.
For those who don’t want to be kidnapped by a dance-fighting cocaine cartel, they decided to allow the Twitter exception to participate without actually entering Brazil. . . I’m okay with that. But why not just go all the way, and put up some indulgence buy-it-nows on eBay?
That sentence may very well have contained earth’s first capoeira joke. Well done.
Recognizing that everyone loves a good “Damn is Catholic theology stupid” story, headlines like “Follow Pope online and reach heaven sooner” started popping up all over the place. Because, you know, that’s exactly what they said. But the accuracy of these mocking headlines didn’t stop Catholics from getting pissed off about them.
When your group is regularly offended by things that are true, it’s your group’s fault, not truth’s.
Try explaining that to Reverend James Martin who wrote a lengthy blog for CNN where he explained that you can’t get time off from purgatory for following Tweets, as that would be silly. It doesn’t count unless you follow those Tweets contritely.
Pope offers indulgences for following him on Twitter: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/17/sorry-you-cant-get-out-of-hell-by-retweeting-the-pope/
And finally tonight, in lubricated jew dick news, we bring you the story of Trigg laboratories where a congregation of rabbis from the Rabbinical Council of California have recently declared their “Wet” brand of personal lubricants to be Kosher, making it the first sex lube that is approved for orthodox jews.
Unless you count the fact that “Moses parting the Red Sea” was code for using menstrual blood as a lubricant.
Check out the mid-rash on that one . . . is what they would say about an unkosher vagina.
It’s important to note the implications of this move. Kosher laws are dietary laws. There is no requirement that suppositories, cosmetics or vaginal cleansers be approved by rabbis unless somebody plans on eating them. So this sex lube hasn’t been cleared for use as a sex lube, it’s been cleared for use as a condiment.
Yeah I could see marinating a chicken in that . . . and then shoving it up a Jewish girl’s ass, if she was into that sort of thing. I mean I wouldn’t suggest it, but if she asked, I’d step up.
And this is great for the Jews . . . They can finally go ass to mouth without worrying about the dietary repercussions.
You never go ass to mouth!
Ass to mouth notwithstanding, this does open up a wide range of new orifice/object permutations for Jews.
Yeah, just what are the rules about sucking orthodox cocks?
In other words, is it okay for women to kneel before the wailing balls?
Can Hassi chicks suck Hassi dicks?
This new lube opens the door to some easier Schindler’s fisting.
Maybe now they can finally put a glory hole in the wailing wall.
Gives new meaning to “Torah new one”
I guess it’s just the latest in the ongoing rabbinical debate on whether or not it’s okay to suck a dick that isn’t eight days old and recently mutilated.
To be fair, when CAN YOU suck an eight day old dick, if not right after you mutilate it?
Also to be fair, whose recently mutilated dick CAN YOU suck, if not that an eight day old boy?
Kosher lube opens orthodox jews to oral sex? http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2013/jul/17/kosher-lube-oral-sex-jews-lubricant
That does it for headlines tonight, Heath, thanks as always for joining me.
You’re not gonna trim the end of those circumcision jokes off in post are you?
And unlike Jesus, we’ll be back soon.
Calendar:
It’s time for the atheist calendar portion of the show. This is the time we set aside once a month to talk up some of the great atheist, secular and skeptical events going on around the country and around the world.
We’ll start in Toledo, Ohio on the weekend of August 18th where the Great Lakes Atheist Convention is welcoming JT Eberhard, Zack Kopplin, Jerry DeWitt and many more, including the Mayor of Toledo, which I find encouraging. And let’s face it, if a speaker lineup can get me thinking “I wish I was in Toledo”, it’s gotta be pretty damn impressive.
http://lanyrd.com/2013/great-lakes-atheist-convention/
Moving 7 days ahead and 7 thousand kilometers away, we’ve got the 15th European Skeptics’ Congress in Stockholm, Sweden on the weekend of the 23rd. Even though parts of the website are in Swedish, the conference itself will be in English
The speakers list includes DJ Grothe, Max Maven and a bunch of Europeans I’ve never heard of that have really interesting topic lines for their talks.
We talked up the Atheist Alliance of America’s upcoming National Convention in Boston last week, but it seems like every time I look at their website they’ve added more awesome speakers. Aron-Ra, Ed Buckner, Seth Andrews, Steven Pinker, Greg Epstein, Sean Faircloth and the list keeps going.
That one’s taking place in Boston over Labor Day weekend.
Lastly, of course, over that same weekend in Atlanta you’ve got DragonCon, which isn’t an atheist or humanist convention, but it’s awesome and it has a hell of a skeptical track so definitely worth checking out if you’re going to be anywhere near Atlanta. Michael Shermer, David Silverman, Rebecca Watson, Mythbusters Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage.
If you want to know more you’ll find links to the homepages for all these events on the shownotes for this episode. And, of course, if you’re involved with or aware of an atheist or secular event that needs a plug, you’ll find all the contact info at Scathing Atheist (dot) com.
Top Ten:
Ah, Ramadan, the only holiday that could also be considered a war-crime. It’s that desultory time of year when Muslims gather together in misery so that they can be reminded that sometimes being a Muslim really sucks. Considered to be one of the five pillars of Islam, Muslims work hard to ensure that Ramadan will never be commercialized like Christmas by making it as miserable as possible.
But knowing that our listenership might not be as familiar with the Muslim customs as they are with the Christian ones, we decided to dedicate a few minutes to answering the top ten most often-asked questions about Ramadan.
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Number ten: How do you celebrate Ramadan?
You don’t. This isn’t the kind of holiday you celebrate exactly. In fact, it’s kind of the opposite of celebrating. During Ramadan, all post-pubescent Muslims are required to observe a month long daylight fast. From sunrise to sunset, they aren’t allowed to eat, drink or smoke and are also expected to refrain from sex and foul language throughout. This is in addition, of course, to the lifelong Islamic prohibitions against alcohol, pork and critical thinking.
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Number nine: Does everyone have to fast during Ramadan?
Not everyone. Pregnant women, people who are ill, women who are breast feeding and people who are travelling are allowed to forego the fast as long as they make up the days later in divine detention.
…writing “I will not comprehend” on the chalkboard.
And while Muslims are quick to point out that little kids aren’t required to fast, because in most of the world that would be considered child-abuse, they are certainly encouraged to as practice for later in life.
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Number eight: Why?
Because the month of Ramadan is believed to be the month that Allah first revealed himself to Mohammed so Muslims mark the occasion by hating life.
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Number seven: When is Ramadan?
Easier asked than answered. Because Muslims use a lunar calendar, Ramadan moves around in the year. Each year it begins 11 days earlier than the year before, so sometimes they fast in the short days of the winter when you need food the most, and sometimes it falls in the summer when not drinking water is borderline suicidal in most of the Muslim world.
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Number six: What does the word “Ramadan” mean?
Yeah, even the word itself foretells of the general shittiness of this custom. It comes from the Arabic word ‘Ramida’ or ‘ar-radam’, and while there is no direct English translation, the gist of the word is “Heat and scorching dryness”.
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Number five: Why the hell would anyone do this?
Because religion makes people do dumb shit. Muslims justify it by pointing out that it helps them focus on the spirit rather than worldly things, as though ignoring reality in favor of imagination was a virtue. They also claim that it helps them master self-control without recognizing the irony that by doing it they’ve explicitly surrendered control of themselves to a fictitious autocrat.
But most of all, they say it helps them empathize with the less fortunate
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Number four: Well what about the sex part? Are they also trying to empathize with ugly fuckers?
Yeah, they never really address the fact that even people who are starving and thirsty are still allowed to jerk off.
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Number three: Is fasting like that unhealthy?
No… how could foregoing all the life giving sustenance for absurd amounts of time possibly harm you? And what’s more, how could believing that failing in this Herculean task would offend god himself damage a 14 year old psychologically?
Of fucking course it’s unhealthy.
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Which leads us to the Number two most often asked question about Ramadan: Seriously?
You bet your ass seriously. And we’re talking about Mulsim seriously. They’ve got levels of seriously we can scarcely comprehend. In fact, it’s even encoded in the laws of many Muslim countries.
The ones that have laws, that is.
Right, like Kuwait, where publicly eating, drinking or smoking during the day carries a heavy fine during Ramadan. Or the UAE, where it’s punishable by hundreds of hours of community service and in Algeria daylight mastication during Ramadan can land you in jail for years.
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And finally, the number one question asked about Ramadan…
How the hell do they get away with calling this a holiday?
It’s only a holiday in the technical sense of being an annual observance. In all other ways, it’s a punishment for being religious. The only real “holiday” part comes at the end of the month with a celebration called Eid al-Fitr, which means “festivity of breaking the fast”. It’s a day when Muslims reflect on the fact that if you hit your testicles with a hammer over and over again for long enough, the act of not hitting yourself in the testicles with a hammer seems like a reward.
Bible Story:
Gather ‘round boys and girls. Today we’re going to open our Bibles to Exodus and read about Moses’ wife, Zipporah.
Now Zipporah was a very important person in the bible. She was so important that we know her name, even though she was a woman.
She grew up in a desert with her six sisters and spent all day doing whatever her father told her to do or getting beaten because that’s what women do in the bible. One day her and her sisters took their sheep to a well so that they could drink, but a bunch of mean men told them to go away so that they could water their sheep first.
Zipporah was sad and angry, but there was nothing she could do because she didn’t have a penis. But luckily, there was somebody around who did: Moses.
Moses was sitting by the well wondering if the corpse of the man he’d recently murdered was starting to stink yet when the bad shepherds shooed Zipporah and her sisters away. Moses decided to step in and help Zipporah water her sheep.
“How can I ever repay you?” she asked.
“A hand job?” Moses suggested.
So she invited him back to her tent so she could tug on his cock for a while, but when they got there her dad was home so she married him instead.
(Hooray!)
Moses loved Zipporah so much that he didn’t marry any other women even though he could have because that was okay back then. He took a job tending her father’s flocks, but one day he came home and told her that God had spoken to him and ordered him to free all the Jews in Egypt.
His eyes were red and he wreaked of burning bush, but Zipporah was a woman so she had no choice but to do what her husband said. So she grabbed their newborn son and left for decades of aimless wandering and random smitings.
But one night, on the way to Egypt, god decided to come to earth in human form and wrestle Moses to death at an inn. God was winning because he was god, so Zipporah decided she would have to help her husband out. But she couldn’t out-wrestle god, so what could she do?
Luckily, there was a baby weiner nearby, so she chopped a little piece of it off and touched it to Moses’ foot so that he could wrestle better. Then Moses suplexed god and everyone lived happily ever after. The end.
Outro:
Before we call it quits for the night, I have a very important apology to make to one of the most adept, admirable, altruistic, adroit, awesome, amazing, accommodating, astonishing, astounding, awe-inspiring anthropoids in the animal kingdom, April. April, I am so sorry that I neglected to thank you last week for your generous donation. Because of the extreme level of your magnificence, I had originally thanked you separately from the rest of last week’s best people, and then in a hasty, late night edit I cut it out without realizing it.
And to those of you who aren’t April, I should note that April told me she and her husband were competing to see who could get more mentions on the podcast through their extraordinary generosity and because of my mistake, April spent a week unjustly occupying the lower portion of the leaderboard in that noble competition. So to make up for that, I’d like to point out to April’s husband that I’ve now mentioned her 6 times in the last 33 seconds.
And in keeping with the “A” themed opening to this outro, I’d also like to thank two more prime examples of human DNA in action whose names also begin with A. Andrew, whose transcontinental philanthropy serves as a shining example of godless morality and another person who would rather remain anonymous but is also a biological exemplification of wit, wisdom and selfless magnanimity.
And while we’re on the topic of apologies to people whose names start with A, I’d also like to apologize to Ann who sent us a very eloquent and well-reasoned email a few weeks ago that deserves an on-air answer. And unfortunately I don’t have time to give it the response it deserves so for the time being I’ll simply say sorry about not making more pimp jokes. We’ll work on that.
That’s all the blasphemy we have for you tonight, but if you want more, there’s more. Tom and Cecil over at Cognitive Dissonance invited me on to chat with them and while it’s not available yet because it hasn’t actually even happened yet, I have reason to believe that you’ll find our conversation on episode 109 of their program, which I have reason to believe will be out on Monday.
And if you can’t make it until Monday, you can find occasional nuggets of Scatheism on our erratically published blog, our Twitter feed @Noah (underscore) Lugeons or our Facebook page at (slash) Scathing Atheist. And people who leave us 5 star reviews on iTunes are better than people that don’t. I also have it on good authority that the Flying Spaghetti Monster will give them mansions closer to the beer volcanos in the afterlife so Pascal’s Wager guys, might as well leave us a 5 star review.
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Episode 28: Partial Transcript
by Heath Enwright, Lucinda Lugeons and Noah Lugeons
(Note: Transcript contains some elements deleted from the final episode due to time constraints)
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Intro
It’s Thursday, it’s August 29th, and atheists do it with larger, evolutionarily superior genitalia.
I’m your host Noah Lugeons, and from well-hung New York, New York, this is the Scathing Atheist.
On this week’s episode:
The Pope raises eyebrows with his “Don’t tell, don’t tell” policy on sex abuse,
A high school in Indonesia will consider a new virgin-fingering policy,
And Lucinda will join us to talk divine land reapportionment,
But first, the Diatribe
Diatribe
If you ever want to feel really old, take somebody who’s diaper you once changed and watch them change their kid’s diaper.
My wife had the opportunity to do just that last week when she flew down to Georgia to meet her niece’s brand new baby girl. She doesn’t get to see her family often so our six year old nephew spent most of the week clinging to her leg in one manner or another.
So one night she’s hanging out with him and he’s looking for excuses to not go to bed. He’s got a bunch of planets on his walls so he starts asking her “which planet is that?”, “which one is that?” Before long she’s got her laptop fired up and she’s showing him Cassini pictures and Voyager images and closeups of coronal mass ejections and he’s eating it up. She shows him the Hubble Deep Field image and his eyes just linger in unchecked amazement when she tells him that every point of light he sees is another galaxy with billions or even trillions of stars.
It takes him a second to even think how to respond. And when he does, the question he chooses is heartbreaking.
“How many miles is it to heaven?”
If I had been there I might have accidentally ruined the next six Thanksgivings by saying something like “Heaven is from religion. These pictures are from reality.” But Lucinda is a bit more diplomatic than me so she answered it as well as it could be answered:
“We’ve seen billions of light years away from earth but we haven’t seen heaven.”
That’s a pretty good answer, I guess, if the goal is not alienating your family. But it’s still a sad damn shame that she had to settle for that. And it’s a damn shame that at the age of six this kid’s natural curiosity is already being stifled by a ridiculously antiquated view of the universe. Even at six he’s encountering things that can’t be made to fit into the biblical worldview. He has to work harder to get to the right answer because he has to weave his way through bullshit to get there.
But the world is already pretty damn hard to wrap your head around at six. It’s a lot harder when you’ve got to reconcile the Adam and Eve myth with the existence of dinosaurs… and recessive genes; when you’ve got to develop a grand unified theory of history that’s two parts history and one part Jewish revenge porn; when you have to stop in the middle of an astronomy lesson to figure out where heaven is.
Think back to your own childhood and you can probably come up with a memory where you were trying to pound the square peg of religion into the round hole of reality. Christians love to defend their little fairy tales by telling us they’re allegories. But when they pull that shit, ask them if they make that clear to their children. If they don’t start out the story by saying “Here’s a fairy tale about Jesus” when they’re telling it to their kids then it’s only an allegory when you get too smart to believe it’s true. And that doesn’t fucking count.
The saddest thing is that this kid’s mother isn’t even particularly religious; she doesn’t go to church, I’ve never seen her pray and she’s certainly read less of the bible in her lifetime than I’ve read this week, but still she’s religious enough to hamstring her son’s education. It’s not deliberate, of course; she just believes that religion is good for her kid because people with every reason to lie say so.
Don’t get me wrong; there are plenty of more reprehensible forms of child abuse that take place in the name of religion. Even if you set aside the sexual and physical abuse that religion is used to justify you still have the wide spectrum of psychological abuses from tormenting kids with images of hell to confusing the shit out of them with prehistoric notions of sexual morality. But there’s something about taking a steaming shit on a child’s curiosity that really pisses me off.
Headlines
Joining me for headlines tonight is my fellow tenable stance junky Heath Enwright. Heath, are you ready to discuss several more ways religion was stupid and indefensible in the news this week?
When you live and die for a math textbook that says two plus two is five, you manage to get all sorts of other wrong answers too. Sometimes your Big Brother is dumb, and shitty at math.
Yeah, all that 1 equals 3 shit was a dead give away.
In our lead story tonight, the Vatican has finally taken a decisive move to ensure a radical decrease in allegations of sex crimes against the clergy: they made reporting those crimes illegal.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just give all the priests vasectomies? . . .
Cut off the DNA evidence problem at the source.
Or just ban the word “No” in the Vatican so there’s never technically a consent issue . . .
Or like I’ve said before, Catholics could just stop having children . . .
But to be fair, those altar boys are asking for it, the way they wear those robes.
…all clingy and shit. So there were already plenty of rumors swirling when word came down that Pope Frankie Valli was “bringing the Vatican legal system up to date” by criminalizing leaks of official information at the same time that he was formalizing the laws about sex crimes. Turns out one law ensures that allegations of sex crimes are confidential and the other makes it illegal to disperse confidential information.
There’s no such thing as a private allegation. That doesn’t exists. That’s just a person thinking to themself, “I’m kinda mad about getting raped.”
Vatican foreign minister Monsignor Dominique Mamberti actually had the audacity to pretend that they were all really disheartened when they learned that they accidentally made it illegal to report sex abuse. He said, and before reading the quote I think I should emphasize that this is actually a real quote (quote) “It’s quite a papal pickle that His Holiness has placed upon our heads.”
It’s time for “Tip of the Mitre, Wag of the Pickle.”
Wasn’t it placing pickles in people’s heads that started this whole problem?
Head scratching behavior, probably because of all the crabs.
Look, if I wanted somebody to find that sausage, I wouldn’t have hidden it in the first place!
When in Rome . . . don’t be surprised to get an unsolicited Roman helmet.
And for those listeners who aren’t familiar with this terminology, when I say Roman Helmet, I’m suggesting the Pope would straddle you backwards and rest his balls over your eyes, and the shaft over your nose, thus resembling a Roman helmet.
They’re actually acting like this was an accident. First of all, the pope’s infallible so you’re fucked right there. But secondly what kind of bullshit 4-year-old-with-a-cookie defense is that? “Whoops! Did we just insulated ourselves against prosecution and international embarrassment? Shucks, I suppose we could undo it with the wave of a crosier, but we’re not. Our bad.”
Pope criminalizes the reporting of sex crimes: http://www.newslo.com/pope-criminalizes-the-reporting-of-sex-crimes/
And from the “Unconsciously regulate your endocrine levels if you saw that coming” file tonight, a recent measles outbreak in Texas has been traced back to an anti-vaccination mega-church.
Pastor, faith-healer and sentient excrement Kenneth Copeland of the Eagle Mountain International Church in North Texas is a vocal proponent of the thoroughly debunked, discredited, disproven, disparaged and disgraced notion that the MMR vaccine causes autism, a theory so indefensible it might as well be biblical.
First of all, there’s absolutely nothing INTERNATIONAL about North Texas. Absurd title for the church, or anything else in that region.
So the church finally decided to base an opinion on a scientific study, and the doctor whose study they went with was Andrew FUCKING Wakefield?!? Dr. Dre and Dr. Mario have more respect in the medical community.
When the inevitable outbreak of fully preventable childhood disease struck, the church sent out a rapid fire series of excuses ranging from “The CDC is secretly infecting people with measles to discredit us” to “measles aren’t that bad, now are they?”
“What had happened is . . . We sent out a pamphlet with the measles-preventing prayer, but there was a typo on one of the important magic words, so everyone was saying it wrong. Plus there was a shortage of unicorn hair this year, so lot’s of people never even got their wands.”
And as much as I’d love to say that anybody who gets measles after taking medical advice from a used-snakeoil salesman deserved it, the problem with the anti-vax crowd is that the victims are the communities that surround these idiots, not to mention their own children.
Someone needs to sneak into these people’s bedrooms and inject HIV into their stupid, deserving mouths.
I hear you can pray that out just like measles.
Measles outbreak at anti-vaccination church: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2013/08/theres_a_measles_outbreak_at_v.php
And in “Criminal Possession of Reason” news tonight, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that California atheist Barry Hazle Jr. is owed some compensatory damages after being sent to jail for not believing in god. And yes, that’s pretty much exactly what happened.
Dude’s name has too many syllables to become an atheist protest mantra.
“FREE BARRY HAZLE JUNIOR!!! FREE BARRY HAZLE JUNIOR!!!” … Doesn’t work.
No it doesn’t. So this unchantable assailant served a brief jail term for a minor drug offense and, upon release he’s ordered to participate in an addiction recovery program. Of course, it’s one of those 12 step “put your faith in a higher power” programs. Hazle, to his credit, actually attended the programs, but he requested a secular alternative. The court told him to fuck off.
Yeah, god forbid you sober up through empirically tested means. No, seriously, god forbids that.
Can’t kick the habit without bad metaphysics.
And judging from the estimates of AA’s success rate, you can’t kick the habit with ‘em either. So anyway, after staff at the 12 step program reported that he was being disruptive in (quote) “a congenial way”, he was taken out of the program and sentenced to a further 100 days in jail. In addition he was denied access to Go and the customary two hundred dollars.
Being disruptive in “a congenial way” ? . . . He was probably telling really good jokes, and even the staff started laughing when they shouldn’t. Listen, if you send an atheist stoner to an NA meeting, he’s gonna make sarcastic comments. It’s impossible not to. Rehab for minor drug offenses … and God, are ridiculous notions. If we don’t mock you there, we could actually burst into flame.
Anything’s possible. So of course he sued the state and of course he won, but he was awarded zero dollars in damages by a jury of his peers because apparently his peers are a bunch of Christian, blowhard assholes. The judge threw out the non-award and set about empaneling a new jury with fewer weasle turds on it.
That’s how the awards process works? Isn’t that … stupid? Why not award him NEGATIVE TEN THOUSAND dollars?
Atheist parolee sent back to prison for complaining about the religiosity of Narc Anon: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/appeals-court-calif-atheist-parolee-entitled-to-compensation-for-constitutional/
And from the “They Meant Freedom of My Religion” file, some Christians in Kansas are going apeshit over a religious display in a school. But not because it’s a religious display in a school. That’s okay. The problem here is that they used the wrong religion.
The display in question was a banner with five images of pillars that read “The Five Pillars of Islam” and that sounds pretty damning when you don’t know the details.
And Christians are all about not knowing the details. But out of context, you’ve gotta admit, vertical pillar-like shapes are pretty offensive. Those five pillars could be used to perform two and half crucifictions. Kids are supposed to just ignore that fact?!?
The story began when somebody snapped a picture of the banner and posted it on Facebook with the caption “this is a school that has banned all forms of Christian prayer. This cannot stand”. And with the penchant for fact checking that we’ve come to expect from angry, meme-spreading Christians, this shit went as viral as Miley’s vagina.
She had to eventually get herpes. Anyone sired by a grown man with 2 first names and a rat tail….
I can’t imagine how herpes could survive in that thing.
Quick 2 point reality check: Number one, this school, along with all other schools in the fucking country, doesn’t “ban all forms of Christian prayer”, they just ban the ones where kids are forced to go along. And number two, acknowledging that religion exists in a school isn’t against the law. It’s the part where you start pushing it on kids as though it was true that we have laws against.
You might have lost their attention between the word reality and the word check. These are people who are offended by visual reminders of “things that exist”.
Christians go apeshit over Islam display in a local school: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/wp/2013/08/22/kansas-school-surrenders-to-ignorance-removes-islam-display/
And finally tonight in “I guess you can’t just Saran Wrap your vagina, can you?” news, a school in Sumatra has proposed a virginity test for all their female students.
What a great job . . . virginity tester . . .
“Did she pass?” “Nope.” “Wait anal? . . . Hold on . . . Another minute . . . Also no.”
“What about her?” “Nope. Next!”
They pretty much never pass – I’m a tough grader.
Education chief Muhammad Rasyid proposed the idea that he describes as (quote) “an accurate way to protect children from prostitution and free sex.”
Wait… prostitution and free sex? If there’s one thing we don’t want, it’s paid sex. And if there’s another thing we don’t want, it’s unpaid sex?
Can’t prove your virginity without taking a cock . . . Can’t take a cock without losing your virginity. Seems like a regular “Snatch 22”.
So setting aside for a second the fact that there’s no actual way to test a woman for virginity, how fucked up does your brain have to be to think that the best way to protect women from prostitution is denying an education the sexually active teenage ones?
Indonesian school proposes virginity test: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/21/virginity-tests-female-students-indonesia
Well that’s gonna do it for headlines tonight. Heath thanks as always.
And when we come back, we’ll recount a biblical massacre or thirty one.
Joshua, in Rhyme
Joshua, Oh Joshua, that genocidal idol,
The baddest motherfucker that we’ve met yet in the bible.
He’s like a biblical Batman, if Batman killed babies.
Imagine if you gave Wolverine adamantium rabies.
This badass says “chop off your foreskin” and people actually do.
He’s like a Jedi in that his story isn’t factually true,
Like Superman he’s invincible and he wins every battle;
But unlike the man of steel, he kills the women and cattle.
He’s like the Hulk but with Thor’s hammer and a magical ark.
The sun needs his permission before it’s allowed to get dark;
Like a bronze age Jackie-Chan, he even kicks ass with dumb shit,
Like his notorious chorus of nuclear trumpets.
He’s the Bible’s Bruce Lee but with triple the skill;
He never met an innocent bystander that he didn’t kill.
With a swipe of his sword he could knock the wings off a gnat;
He could take out all four ninja turtles and that mutated rat.
As you learn about this guys, it’s not hard to conclude;
That Chuck Norris impregnated the Dos Equis dude.
He’s admirable and loveable and strong and heroic,
As long as you haven’t updated your morals since the paleozoic.
Joshua, Oh Joshua, Moses finally died,
So you could have the position that so long you had eyed.
You served bravely as Vice Jew but the time’s come alas,
After too many decades of kissing god’s ass,
To take the baton and lead this army of Jews,
After all, there are Canaanites in need of abuse.
You served god well by scouting and then not being honest;
So you’ll lead the Hebrews to the land that god promised.
Your ambitions are grand, your intentions extortionate;
So with your god-given powers of land reapportionment;
You’ll be crossing a river but you won’t need a float;
When God’s done with that shit, you’d have to carry your boat.
Where to go? Jericho. I hear they’ve got hookers.
You promised not to kill Rahab and she’s quite a looker.
You might as well since you’re killing all the gentile chicks,
And there’s no way those Jewish princesses are sucking your dick.
Joshua, Oh Joshua, how your legend ascends,
The way you massacre, exterminate and ethnically cleanse,
You’re the bravest, the strongest and usually the smartest,
Except when dealing with Gibeons… those fucking con-artists.
Hanging kings, burning villages, your army sets forth,
From Achan to Ai then continuing north.
Killing children to show what a shit you don’t give;
But showing occasional mercy by letting animals live.
With the slightest of setbacks, your conquest succeeds,
Ensuring that millions will boast of your deeds.
You’re a legend, a lion, a genuine stud;
They took your milk and your honey and you took their blood.
Babble
Ah, Joshua, the redundant geography lesson of the Old Testament. Half exaltation of genocide, half property auction listing, this book has all the intrigue of GPS directions, all the civility of YouTube comments and all the morality of a Nuremberg indictment.
So to help me sort through the fallen bodies, I’m joined by my lovely wife Lucinda. Lucinda, welcome back.
And of course, not having actually gone anywhere since we recorded the headlines segment is Heath. Heath, thanks for not having left while you had the chance.
So basically the book of Joshua describes the glorious war crimes that Joshua committed in order to fulfill god’s belated promises of land.
Yeah because it’s not like god could just divinely create more land for the Jews that wasn’t full of people they’d need to kill. What, did he run out of milk and honey or something?
Look, I already made you guys a promised land. It’s right there. Milk, honey, vineyards, the whole nine… you just need to fumigate.
And fumigate they do. So let’s just dive in, shall we?
Upon Moses’ death, God passes the torch to Joshua, which is kind of like Lord Vader putting you in command of the fleet.
God says “You are invincible. Nobody can defeat you. But don’t forget to be brave”… how brave can an invincible person really be?
Good headline here: “Son of Nun Supports the Habit”
In chapter 2 Joshua sends a couple of spies across the Jordan. They were just about to start scouting the land when they decided to fuck some whores instead.
Joshua says to his spies, “Go check out Jericho.”
“Dude that’s perfect, that whorehouse is right on the way … In N Out Fur Burger. We’re clearly stopping. Jericho should be a pushover.”
Then the King of Jericho finds out Joshua sent spies … “Get that slut Rahab on the phone and tell her to be on the lookout for penises that are horribly mangled by primitive foreskin removal.”
Little did the king know, the crafty tribe had conveniently forgot about that rule for a few decades. More on that later.
Apparently everyone in Jericho keeps up with TV news, or saw “The Ten Commandments”, and they thought the Red Sea thing was badass, so they’re scared of the Jews and their apparent ties to a god with cool powers.
In chapter 3 Joshua feels like he has to prove himself to be truly Mosaic so he parts the Jordan. Couldn’t come up with his own magic trick or anything. Just totally ripped off Moses.
And it’s a dick move when it’s a river. When you part a river for that long, while an entire tribe and their army carries their shit across, you kill a town upstream by flooding them.
Oregon trail would have been easier if you could be a Jewish prophet, in addition to Boston banker, Ohio carpenter, or Illinois farmer. Never have to risk caulking the wagon or trying to ford the river.
We learn about the 12 magic Joshua stones… and is it me or does this thing occasionally read like a tourist guide? All this “And they are there to this day” crap… it’s almost like the people writing this didn’t realize somebody would still be reading it 3000 years later.
And wouldn’t that be the easiest way to fuck up the whole “biblical inerrancy” thing? I mean, somebody plunks one of those rocks back into the river and the bible is suddenly full of shit.
And now stupid people have another reason to selectively misinterpret mystical powers related to the number 12.
So the entire army crosses the Jordan into hostile territory and ten seconds after god fills the river back in he says, “Oh you know what… why don’t you guys do some cosmetic penis surgery before going to war?”
And this has the feeling of a later addition. Like somebody was reading through Joshua version 1 and said, “Yeah but when did these guys chop their foreskins off? We better add that. Don’t wanna glaze over the important stuff.”
“I’m getting a lot of pleasure sensations from my upper penis area. Does anyone have a flint knife?”
And then of course this chapter of the saga can’t end until god sends a messenger to tell Josh to take off his filthy fucking birkenstocks when he enters a promised land.
Then they do the divine conga line think with the trumpets. For a week there’s a ring of Jews walking silently around town and all the people behind the walls are thinking, “This is the worst parade ever, but they seem friendly, at least.” And then the trumpet blows, the walls come crashing down and they kill everybody but the whore and her family.
And man do they. Chapter 6, verse 21: Then they devoted to destruction by the edge of their sword all in the city; both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep and donkeys. Even the talking ones.
So on to chapter 7 which reeks of revisionism. After god says “go kick ass, you are invincible”, they lose the second fight they get into. So Joshua is all “Hey bro, what happened to the invincible before my enemies thing?” And god’s all “Uh-uh-uh, somebody took some silver and hid it from me so all bets are off.”
So they go and find the dude who did it. He confesses. So they mercifully set him and his family on fire and stone their burning bodies to death. And that kind of shit makes god really happy.
“I said you could rape, but only the Levites can pillage and plunder. I specifically said raping only. But the free non-consensual pussy wasn’t good enough, was it?!? You’re in GOD’s fucking army! Act accordingly! There a line! And it’s somewhere between rape and stealing silver.” Rape’s on the RIGHT side!!!! Stealing the silver was the problem!!!
Then they go back to the town that had just kicked their asses because god was on their side again. But interesting that they also sent 10 times as many men this time and worked out an elaborate ambush.
And kill all the men, women and children. But you can tell god is in a way better mood, because this time he lets the livestock live.
The residents of Gibeon heard about the approaching wave of genocide so they tricked Joshua into sparing them and just making them slaves by pretending to be from a far off country.
Yeah, they were damn tricky. They’re showing them moldy bread and saying “look, this was a fresh loaf when we left! How could we possibly have moldy bread if we weren’t foreigners?”
I love that Joshua asks them “Why did you trick me?” You were going to kill them, you asshole. Why the fuck wouldn’t they trick you?
It’s the “Two For Flinching, Rodney King” conundrum. When you swing a night stick, and then yell “STOP RESISTING ARREST!” when they hold up their hand to block it . . .
Chapter 10 probably contains the most ass-kicking of any chapter in the bible. This is where Joshua pretty much wipes out the whole country. Hell, god starts hurling stones at the opposing armies at one point and when they try to flee Joshua orders god to not let the sun set so they can pursue them better.
I love the way they keep bragging about how thorough the genocide was. It’s like bragging to your friend’s wife about how hot his mistress is.
These guys wipe out innocent civilians better than a double-tap drone strike. “Collateral Damage” is Joshua’s middle name … Joshua “Collateral Damage” . . . Jew … Nunson!!!
Then Joshua’s army kills more people. Then they go back to the army-less towns, kill all the women and children, steal all the valuables and, on occasion, burn the city to the ground.
Chapter 12 is basically a scorecard that compares Moses and Joshua when it comes to the murdering of monarchs. As it turns out, Joshua won by a long shot.
For the record, if you present the information from a table with two columns, and the entry is the same for an entire column . . . you don’t need a fucking table!!! And if you write it all out – which makes even less sense – you don’t have to repeat the number “one” over and over.
And then this book abruptly stops being remotely interesting. Just when think you’re settling into a book full of merciless bloodshed we make a hard right into the minutes of a bronze age community re-zoning board.
“Ok we murdered all the people. I believe you PROMISED us some LAND. It’s not like we weren’t CHOSEN over here.”
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For four chapters we get poorly formed GPS directions and a few stories of slightly less thorough slaughters.
Plus some incest.
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As you’re reading this shit you can’t help but wonder how this book ever led to a land dispute.
They set up the cities of refuge, which are these lovely little towns full of unavenged murderers.
If stupid shit in your holy book leads to a whole bunch of accidental murders, so much so that entire manslaughter cities were necessary . . . you might want to scrap the draft.
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On the way home from the war, the Reubenites and the Gadites build a statue to commemorate their part in the genocidal mission from god, and that’s like talking about Fight Club. Smite Club. So all the Israelites decide it’s a reasonable time to go to war with them over it.
Luckily they all sit down and talk and agree that they all still believe in the same magical sky man or all hell might have broken loose.
And then Josh is all old and crotchety and he gathers everybody together to send a very clear message: Just cause god’s been giving you a lot of cool stuff doesn’t mean he won’t still fuck your shit up.
And then Joshua reminds them one more time not to piss god off and he dies. And they bury him. And apparently they’d been carrying Joseph’s bones around this whole time and they bury those, too.
And the very last verse in the whole thing is about Eleazer dying. This is some super-minor, forgotten character and the whole things ends with “and Eleazer, son of Aaron? He’s dead too.”
Now I have to admit that this book gave us some much needed closure. It managed to tie the whole first six books together and make you feel like you’d just been reading one long story for a minute, so I was actually impressed by it from a literary perspective.
Not so much from a moral perspective.
No, it was probably the least moral thing we’ve come across yet and that’s saying something after Leviticus and Numbers.
And Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy.
True. Well, we’ll be in biblical detox for a couple weeks but we’ll be tackling Judges in about three weeks so you have plenty of time to get caught up if you hate yourself.
Lucinda, Heath, thanks for joining me…
Outro
Before we count down the registers tonight, I wanted to give a quick shout out to all the participants in the Fantasy Football League of Sinister Secularists. It’s a league that Carl from Post Rapture Looting and I cooked up made up entirely of secular podcasters and bloggers.
So to Carl, Thomas from Thomas and the Bible, Cecil from Cognitive Dissonance, Mark from Be Secular (dot) org, Bill and his son Sean from Bar Room Atheists, Evan from The Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe, Jessye from wherever the heck Carl found her and of course, Heath from 84 seconds ago, I want to say good luck on the week’s when you’re not playing me and may you be humble in your inevitable defeat.
If you have even a passing interest in which podcaster and/or blogger reigns supreme, I’ll be keeping everybody posted on the blog at Scathing Atheist (dot) com. And if you have no interest in that whatsoever, I’ll also be putting other stuff on the blog as well.
I need to thank Lucinda for lending us her wit, her insight and her angelic voice tonight, I need to thank Heath as always, but even more than usual this time for staying up til the crack of dawn after his birthday party to work on the headlines segment. I also need to thank Michael Dunlap from mikedunlapphotography.com for providing this week’s Farnsworth quote. You’ll find a link to his website on the shownotes for this episode.
But most of all tonight we need to extend our deepest gratitude to this week’s most irreplaceable corporeal forms; Pekka, Sherrill, Thomas, Steve, David, other Steve, Matt and Alden. Pekka, Sherrill and Thomas, whose lightning quick fists seem sluggish compared to their wit; Steve, David and other Steve whose boundless generosity seems slight compared to their intellects; and Matt and Alden, whose humility is in constant conflict with their behemoth genitals.
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